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Oh it has taken me almost 5 years but I feel I'm back to me almost and moving forward.  So much has gone on I guess I could write a book . My question is how are you and are some of my old buddies still here.

Hi pooh   pen luise  it is Artlady. I've been gone for almost 3 years I guess   lost track of time . No changes worse then before . Hope you have good news   Miss you

Maybe some that were here with me have reunited with their estranged children. My case is no better truth be known it is worse and I see no fixing . Hope all is well   . Mine is the controlling   narcissist  sil

Hi ladies. I do hope all are doing better and moving forward. DD has become more isolated , controlled and distant. She now is at home with a 2 year old and a 6 month old trying to work part time . All of her best friends from childhood thru present are worried about her as they feel she has dropped off the face of the earth. They have tried to reach out to her but she is short with them, defensive and makes excuses why she has not kept in touch. I can totally understand. The strange part is she is suppose to go into work one day a week they have not seen her since Sept 2013.  That is not like her at all, she has always had a strong work ethic, I didn't know until her best friend told me her dh wanted her to quit work when they got married before babies. The real issue is her dad ( step dad only one she has ever known ) has bladder cancer, two surgeries and we start on the treatment this tue. So far no visit just a brief call right before surgery. A very different daughter from the time he had open heart surgery a month before her wedding . She was on top of it all. I['m over so much of it but this cancer situation has brought some of those hurts back to the surface . I still try to go visit during the week but have not been since right after xmas and not sure when I will be able to go back. It is hard to go as the beautiful person she was is gone and I dont'[ recognize the daughter she is now . It is like she has died and I can'[t love this one as I did the other one . I do believe she is in a very bad situation, I do think there is emotional abuse as well as financial. I just pray no physical . I know she won't come to me about it and now she has a few new friends through her exercise class , which is safe for her as they are not a threat to him evidently. I dont'[ think she would confide in them and they didnt'[ know her before to know the person she was . Ok got to get my self going today . Love Kisses and Hugs to you all     

I"ve not been here for a while now but I'm to the point I'm ready to just put DD and SIL out of sight and out of mind for my own sanity . It is way past time for DH and me to enjoy life with out the pain they have given us for almost 3 years. Hope everyone is dong great .

Right now and of late I'm so emotinally drained I can't help anyone not even myself. This to will pass but right now I'm going day by day. Not normal for me as I'm always upbeat even when I'm hurting but I just can't seem to get my "groove" back right now., i think it is just battle fatigue . thanks

Pen I am in the same situation but reversed as it is DD and SIl. I've not been on here for a long time , just been having too many low days and can't even read other's situation as if depresses me more . I do hope yours gets better and I'll check from time to time in hopes of it doing so then maybe i'll feel hopeful.

You are awesome raising 7 daughters , all the hormones in one house wow I'm amazed. 

CAC  relationships with our DD's can come in all kinds of ways. My DD was very close until she married 2 years ago and had a baby 5 months ago. DD has gone from calling every day to multiple text and emails . I just think texts/emails are so impersonal and yes they can get so misinterpreted. Everyone is so in shock as they don't seem to understand her distance she has put between me and others . I'm learning to toughen this old heart, look to what I want in my life ( and with DH) and move on so not to hurt or expect anything from DD at this time in my life. It is a little like going through a divorce or a death ( only the one you are mourning is still very much alive ) . I"m not so sure DD is even aware of the change in herself or that she has hurt several close to her. WE have done so much for her as you did for your DD , so it is hard to feel all of that is unappreciated as it seems to be . I"m just " moving on up" as the song goes so hope you will be in a good place soon. I"m not there yet but I"m trying my best to get there.

oh my that was a very hard time i'm sure with that little one , i know our hearts guide us and that 6th sense as mothers is a strong sense we all have about our children young or old

Pen LL and LV you are so right , I rocked DD and both seemed to love it . I had rockers everywhere from both sides of the family so that tells you something , as  I was told these rocked my mom/dad , my brothers and me etc so I loved rocking DD thinking back on the others that were rocked in them. Now one of those rockers is in her nursery so GC is the 4th generation in that rocker but it only gets used at bed time , as a scheduled rock / after nursing . No other time . I used it to calm her down, to put her down for naps, it was just something I enjoyed and I thought was good for her too. So hope the little guy is loving that night time rock, it was hard enough to go through that "cry out " stuff, not pick him up to comfort the little guy. I was a good mother/ MIL i did as I was told because in this situation I can't afford to rock the boat .

Oh I wanted to rock oh sooooooooooooo bad, as I love rocking those little ones while you can. I believe it is such a sweet , nuturing part of a baby's life to be rocked but the new way with some doesn't include it so yes i did as i was told , no tellling with him an engineeer there might have been a ganny=cam somewhere   lol , he has all the other gadgets  . Maybe sometime I"ll get to rock him before he is too big to fit in my lap

Oh I was going to rock I made my mind up but he seemed to be settling down in between so i thought if i pick him up , rock him and he gets all upset then i might have a time on my hand . My luck they would come home early , I wouldn't hear them till they were upstairs so that I'd be , I'm sure the sil would be livid , have a very ugly remark to make and it too far and too late for me to drive home with hurt feelings so to keep the peace , not what I wanted to do I did as i was told .The rocker in the nursery is the rocker i was rocked in , DD was rocked in and I had it redone , new covered cushion on the bottom to match nursery colors. It is the best baby rocking rocker, so comfortable .

LL I had decided I would but then I thought what if I do and he doesn't go to sleep , they come home and find out he has been awake all this time . DD left a bottle for him in case so I had my plan but when a baby gets over tired then sometimes it can be hard getting them to sleep. He was crying very hard at first so I did the 10 minutes, he started to settle down so then it was breaks of crying to a quick doze , as i had monitor so i could hear and see  all he was doing . I wanted to rock him sooooooooooooooo back and bond with that little fella as I feel i need to , just don't feel attached to him yet as i think i should be feeling , like i do with others . I know i could kick myself for not doing it but when it came from SIL"s directions i figured i might not , but i knew dd wouldn't mind if i did but SIL rules. 

OH YES I Forgot , everyone can get up off your knees from praying , I made it , baby lived through me sitting for 3 hours , DD/SIL didn't have me arrested , house was in one piece and I didn't screw up the TV with all the gadgets and controls they have to use. So you don't have to look for my obituary anywhere in the news. I'm back to normal , trying to stay cool in this terrible heat wave in the south, going naked is not an option  at my age   lol  .