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Title: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on April 29, 2010, 09:37:23 AM
someone in here really dislikes me....everytime I come in, I have been given more negative points....I'm up to -18 now and counting...it all started a few weeks ago?   :-[

Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Pen on April 29, 2010, 09:50:06 AM
Yes, me too. I don't care anymore. The first couple of minuses were hard for me to understand, since I don't think I've said anything that different than anyone else, but now I think it's just someone with issues and I don't even pay attention to 'em. Since there's no way to track what they're objecting to, it's really moot.

Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on April 29, 2010, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: penstamen on April 29, 2010, 09:50:06 AM
Yes, me too. I don't care anymore. The first couple of minuses were hard for me to understand, since I don't think I've said anything that different than anyone else, but now I think it's just someone with issues and I don't even pay attention to 'em. Since there's no way to track what they're objecting to, it's really moot.

You could be right, in the last couple of weeks I've gotten so many...and there for awhile, every day...I think?  however, I don't care either, it just caught my attention....t hat I am getting so many lately...?
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Meryl on April 29, 2010, 11:57:02 AM
You guys have been reading my mind. While I was reading the first post in DILS/SONS about perspective I was thinking what a great post it was and how much intelligent conversation resulted. When I noticed all the negative points, I was bothered. Great conversation occurred and yet their were so many negative points.

Luise, please get rid of the thumbs down. It is not useful and is not being used, in my opinion, in the way it was intended.

I would give you guys gold stars. ;)

Meryl
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: willingtohelp on April 29, 2010, 01:15:15 PM
I blame the gnomes.  They look so sweet sitting in the garden, but when you turn you back they hid your keys, steal socks so you can't match them, and give you minuses.

On a more serious note (and it should tell you something about my mood today that this is more serious), if we can't get rid of them, we can just declare every Thursday opposite point day.  Today, if you like something, thumbs down it.  And if you don't like it, thumbs up it.  And now no one will know if you got them for saying something someone liked or didn't like. 
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: alohomora on April 29, 2010, 02:18:16 PM
I was under the impression we got them when WE gave out thumbs up or down?

I've given out the exact same number of thumbs up that I've got listed. Everytime I give a thumbs up, my ++ goes up.
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Orly on May 05, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
Well, everyone has gotten me walking lopsided with the karma points.....I could use some on the disagreeable side to help "balance" me out.  I was perfectly happy with that nice zero/zero balance......OH BAH!    LOLOLOL.
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 05, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
I tried to get the Karma feature removed but Kirk says they are an integral part of the canned forum program. However, He has a magic wand.  ;D

Wonder what mine look like. We seem to have a pretty judgmental person afoot!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 06, 2010, 05:49:19 AM
Quote from: luise.volta on May 05, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
I tried to get the Karma feature removed but Kirk says they are an integral part of the canned forum program. However, He has a magic wand.  ;D

Wonder what mine look like. We seem to have a pretty judgmental person afoot!

yeah, I hear ya...up until yesterday, I had -18, and now there are -20?????  I think its someone just being frumpy...besides, I was never well liked  ;D  Psst, I don't care...all one can do, is they're best?  but yeah, I think someone is just being a nudge....

Don't worry, I've got you beat now.... ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 06, 2010, 05:50:09 AM
Quote from: Orly on May 05, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
Well, everyone has gotten me walking lopsided with the karma points.....I could use some on the disagreeable side to help "balance" me out.  I was perfectly happy with that nice zero/zero balance......OH BAH!    LOLOLOL.

Just for complaining, I'm going to make you more top heavy, LOL....hugs and miss you...
Creme
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Nana on May 06, 2010, 10:48:06 AM
Ladies:

I dont know about the point system.  I just watched the thumbs up and thumbs down.  I really dont have points one way or the other.  I think I saw plus 1 minus 1. 

Do we get to classify each post we read or do we only classify the answers we like with the point system.  I was not able to understand that when I joined this site.

I would appreciate any information.    :)
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 06, 2010, 10:53:22 AM
its pretty simple really, when you read another's post, underneath they're name you'll see thumbs up and thumbs down...thumbs up is of course, the + points and thumbs down is the _ points...however, there are some in here who are intent on being really unahppy and mean and if they disagree with what you say, they automatically hit thumbs down...many times during the day....and that is what we're talking about....

What Luise explained is, that point system came with the software package for this website....I've been on sites before where they have a plus system and the poster is awarded points....however, never have seen the minus points before, and what I was saying is, someone in here really dislikes me, b/c I've been getting them like hotcakes....since about two or three weeks ago, and actually 3 more since yesterday? 
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 06, 2010, 02:50:52 PM
I suppose that feature was set up for expression but none of us need unkindness. The person responsible may be happier on a more negative site where trashing can be done openly. Maybe our webmaster can track it for me.
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Postscript on May 06, 2010, 07:33:47 PM
I only realized they were there a couple of weeks ago, it's no biggie, it just means someone disagreed with something that I said and I came to the conclusion that is not a bad thing.  Let's face it, this is a the interwebz, nobody really and truly knows anyone else, so my self esteem is not affected by some faceless person pressing a button somewhere in cyberspace.  For all I know the person who gave me mine was a big ugly guy who lives in his Mom's basement and has no friends so he masquerades as a lady on the web ;)
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 06, 2010, 08:17:28 PM
Oh, that's priceless.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 07, 2010, 05:50:05 AM
Quote from: Anna on May 07, 2010, 05:29:20 AM
Hi Creme, I see 5 -'s, not 18, & 40 +'s on you ??  I don't think you deserve any -'s.  I don't think any of us deserve any -'s, we are all just stating our opinions.  So lets just think of the -'s as an opinion, & really whoop it up when our +'s go up !!  What do you think??    ;D

Holy cow, your right....?????????  I wonder what happened?  Weird...OMG, am I going absolutely bonkers...I could swear there were -20 there...honest...or else I'm seeing things???????

I don't think anyone deserves them either Anna, to be penelized for your opinion?  Wrong...however, it never really bothered me, until I saw it go up drastically within the last few weeks...and I think I know why, however, I'm zipped...

and yeah, your right...absoultely!  Thanks

Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 07, 2010, 05:52:06 AM
QuotePostscript  For all I know the person who gave me mine was a big ugly guy who lives in his Mom's basement and has no friends so he masquerades as a lady on the web ;)

LOL.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 07, 2010, 06:19:35 AM
Quote from: Anna on May 07, 2010, 06:06:26 AM
Creme, maybe our web wizards got out their magic wands &  made them disappear, or maybe they were never there!!  LOL.    :D :D :D

they were to there, I saw them... :o  course, I may not have had my glases on?   :-\     ;D

Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 07, 2010, 08:12:49 AM
That was Kirk-The-Webmaster with his Magic Wand. No one gets to do persecution on our Website!  ;D ;D

(I just picked a -5 because 1 every 500 posts seemed reasonable.  ;D )

Sending love and Pings for all of the wonderful work you do here, Creme!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Scoop on May 07, 2010, 08:29:26 AM
Luise - you should ask Kirk to make your minuses disappear too.  You are our Angel!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 07, 2010, 08:48:34 AM
Well, that is sweet!  :D I think minus points may just "come with the territory" for me  because it is my site. I have to step in every once in a while, as you know. However, if anyone ever targets me like that...poof!!  ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 07, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: luise.volta on May 07, 2010, 08:12:49 AM
That was Kirk-The-Webmaster with his Magic Wand. No one gets to do persecution on our Website!  ;D ;D

(I just picked a -5 because 1 every 500 posts seemed reasonable.  ;D )

Sending love and Pings for all of the wonderful work you do here, Creme!

thank you Luise and Kirk....for a moment there I thought I was going bonkers...?   ;D
Now I'm back in the saddle again...

hugs and sending many thanks to you both...
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 07, 2010, 09:50:24 AM
No one deserves it more!  ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 09, 2010, 03:29:08 AM
No one caught my bad math!  A minus 5 is one every 250, not every 500. I would have made it a zero if Kirk hadn't ask me what a realistic number was.

And by the way, I am still laughing over the ugly guy living in his mother's basement, pretending to be a woman and posting here! What a great description of the possibilities of cyber-reality!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Postscript on May 09, 2010, 04:06:04 AM
I did wonder Luise but my math is abysmal, my scholastic talent lies solely in the English language side of things, so I ignored the strange feeling that the math was out and relied upon my ignorance of things mathematical :)

It's something of a comfort to imagine a sad little ugly man living in his maternal basement dishing out negative points don't you think?
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 09, 2010, 09:13:14 AM
 ;D :D :D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Pen on May 09, 2010, 10:39:04 AM
I wonder if the ugly-man-in-basement's mom posts here too? Unbeknownst to each other? That would really be funny ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 09, 2010, 02:34:58 PM
Oh, I love that!  ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 10, 2010, 06:48:31 AM
someone, Anna, who is really unhappy/mean apparently holds a lot of water with these miuns points...why would you even think about using them to begin with?  Personally, it some disgrunted person who really gets off on hurting others?  And I hope that Kirk can do away with them...
they are being used inappropriately...yes, I can see how people can disagree with someone else's posts...however, to give someone a minus b/c of it, is so immature...

That's my take?
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Pen on May 10, 2010, 07:50:15 AM
Quote from: Anna on May 10, 2010, 06:35:53 AM
Hmmmmm, another minus, & this time I really can't see why I got one.  My posts recently have been positive & upbeat.  At least I've been trying really, really hard to be positive & upbeat!!  I don't mind the -'s, but this time, I feel I really didn't deserve one.  But...yiippeeeee, my pluses have gone up too!!  :D

Hey, Anna, me too! I didn't even notice until you mentioned it. It's hilarious, actually. Just like with my DIL, someone "just doesn't like me." Boo-hoo, I'll go eat worms  :P
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 10, 2010, 07:53:32 AM
I got 3 more since Luise lowered them?  Someone is really really jealous or something, but somethings wrong....I think there should be a wat ti monitor who is giving them, and repromand who ever is doing it, this is ridiculous
you gals don't deserve them one iota....
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: RedRose on May 10, 2010, 08:29:23 AM
Well...look at mine...nobody ever likes what I say either way.

I wish we would get rid if them too.
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: RedRose on May 10, 2010, 08:54:03 AM
Thanks, Anna, I always like what you have to say too.
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 10, 2010, 09:15:22 AM
I like what you all have to say...even though we may not all agree, that's how we learn...

I'm so glad your all here..... ;D

Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 10, 2010, 10:47:08 AM
This looks like an unhealthy game on someone's part, Creme. I agree with everyone that the negative karma doesn't serve anyone except a person with a grudge(who obviously fears visibility.) I will ask Kirk again is there is any possible way to get rid of it (and her.) I don't think it is about what is being said, not really.  It is not coming from a Wise Woman. Sending love...
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Orly on May 10, 2010, 11:59:43 AM
HEY!  Someone took pity on my lopsidedness and has started me back on the road to an even keel.  All right!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 10, 2010, 12:06:05 PM
Ah, the mad-minus-monster(ess)!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 10, 2010, 07:29:25 PM
OMG! He did it? Kirk said it was way complicated to mess with the software at that level but I pleaded with him again today in everyone's behalf!

He has effectively killed the Minus Stalker! Yea!! What a guy our Webmaster is!!!  ;D ;D ;D 

We are all capable of communicating without having to hide our identities to do it!!

Creme...thanks for bringing this to a head.  :)
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: elsieshaye on May 10, 2010, 08:13:20 PM
Thanks, Kirk and Louise!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Orly on May 10, 2010, 08:29:53 PM
Oh thank you Kirk and Luise for returning me to stability!  No longer do I need worry about walking lopsided from accumulated karma points, scaring small children with my representation of Igor as I stride down the street.  My karmic load is visually lifted, my heart is soothed, and BOY, am I a much happier grump!

"kneeling and kowtowing towards the islands of Hawaii",  in the words of Wayne and Garth from "Wayne's World",    "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy".   

LOL!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 10, 2010, 08:47:05 PM
Oh, Orly, you are so funny! It does feel better, doesn't it? A great one-year-WWU- anniversary present from the Holy Webmaster One out there in Paradise.  ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Postscript on May 10, 2010, 11:58:05 PM
You know it's a completely moot point now, but do you think it's possible all this angst over the minus points perhaps provoked more?

I didn't hear anyone saying wow, I have 40+ points and only 15 - points :D, 40 people liked what I have to say, my cup runneth over! Instead people concentrated on the negative.  In a way it's indicative of the human condition, instead of being grateful for the positives in our lives, we concentrate on the negative parts.

Luise what is that poor little man in his Mom's basement going to do with himself now?  I imagine his mother does post somewhere something along the lines of...

I love my son, I really do but how to motivate him to do something with his life?  He lives in my basement, never goes anywhere and lives through his computer!  I am retired, I worked and saved all my life for this, now I want to enjoy my retirement, but he's there in my basement and I am the only human contact he has.  I want to go on a 12 month cruise and see the world but I worry he might go all "Norman Bates" if I do, then I will come home to some sad parody of myself, dressed in my clothes and my son talking in falsetto for me!  Especially now they took away his ability to give - points on the WWU site! What to do?
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: cremebrulee on May 11, 2010, 04:04:51 AM
QuotePostscript
You know it's a completely moot point now, but do you think it's possible all this angst over the minus points perhaps provoked more?

I didn't hear anyone saying wow, I have 40+ points and only 15 - points :D, 40 people liked what I have to say, my cup runneth over! Instead people concentrated on the negative.  In a way it's indicative of the human condition, instead of being grateful for the positives in our lives, we concentrate on the negative parts.

Good Morning Postscript...I hear your words and certainly understand what you mean...however, when you go from 13 negatives to 28 in a matter of days, something or someone is wrong...it was someone who had a grudge or was a very unahppy person...generally I didn't care about the points...however, when I saw them go up and up everyday, I was concerned about someone coming in here and being vindictive...and whoever it was was doing the same thing to others...

I know your right, in what you say....but it wasn't right that someone could get away with some thing like that either, and it wasn't just me...he/she was attacking others in the same way...so just know, I felt it was something that had to be addressed....

Thank you to Luise and Kirck for your help...I hope whoever was playing this game, has been stopped....
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 11, 2010, 07:20:00 AM
News Flash: We have saved the ugly little man in the basement! When he couldn't lurk and strike on WWU and watch people's concern...he stepped out into the sunshine for a moment check his poison ivy patch and fell in love. There was a puddle there from a Spring rain and when he saw himself he was enamored. He ran back inside and shaved and out again to see what that did...and what followed was amazing. After several more changes and rechecks in the puddle...he went to town. I kid you not! He want to get a mirror before the puddle dried up! He took it to his mother and showed her his discovery and urged her to go on her cruise because now he could keep himself company. She suggested that he look on a dating Website for a suitable companion with the depth and breath of intellect and personality he was evidencing and booked her cruise. It's the kind of cruise that can be renewed at the end of twelve months. Looks like they are going to live happily ever after and we did it! We removed the Karma points from WWU and FREED THEM!!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Marilyn on May 11, 2010, 11:35:48 AM
This is just too funny Luise! :)

I love it!
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 11, 2010, 12:30:25 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: 1Glitterati on May 11, 2010, 01:43:15 PM
If it makes the board happy, I think it's great.

I always thought they were more for very strongly agree and very strongly disagree than for the literal definition of Karma.  I gave some pluses, I gave some minuses, I got some pluses, I got some minuses.  T'wasn't a big deal to me...but having them gone isn't either. 
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 11, 2010, 04:50:57 PM
It seemed an OK (built-into the software) feature at first. I got the most minuses but that made sense because once in a while I have to be the "heavy" (for the good of the order.)

My take on it is that as long as it was used the way you used it, all was well but it was never intended to be a weapon of mass destruction. Simpler by far to discontinue it and put our likes an dislikes out front in a respectful and accountable manner.

I doubt anyone who used it wisely, will miss it to any serious degree. I hope not.
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: Hope on May 15, 2010, 12:57:49 PM
Thanks, Luise.  i liked the plus feature, but I think someone was really abusing the minuses and had to be stopped.  That isn't what this forum is all about.  It's about helping eachother, not tearing them down.  Seemed like a selfish and immature thing for someone to do.  Now we can freely give our opinion without the fear of the minus monster.  The basement comments were great!  It's like a does of medicine to laugh, isn't it?
Sending everyone love and happy thoughts.....
Hope
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: kathleen on May 15, 2010, 02:24:35 PM
After reading all these posts, I still can't figure out the "point system."  Yikes!  I shouldn't be let loose on the Internet!  How do you find these points?  Someone wrote how to do it, but I still can't get it.

Kathleen
Title: Re: Our Point System
Post by: luise.volta on May 15, 2010, 02:27:42 PM
The point system has been deleted. It was a way to vote for or against a person's posts but it was used unkindly.