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Dawn50

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Any advice is welcome
« on: August 31, 2010, 01:11:44 AM »
I don't know how long these posts are supposed to be, but mine may end up being too long.  My problems with my daughter started when she was 12.  I was going through a very difficult, long drawn out and traumatic divorce from my second husband (who was not my daughter's father) and I became very depressed -- couldn't quit crying, unable to concentrate at work, etc.  I went to the the company psychiatrist and he sent me to a family counseling center.  They recommended that I go for thirty days treatment for Alanon.  (Lots of alcoholism in my family and both husband's alcoholics and drug dependent.)  My daughter and son went to stay with my ex-mother-in-law while I went to treatment, with the provision that my children stay there until the end of the school year (about five months).  I never should have agreed because once she was established there and I was away at treatment, she began turning my daughter away from me.  My son was not her biological grandchild and he was older than my daughter and therefore not as easily influenced.  The short and the long of it is, my daughter decided she wanted to stay there and would not come back with me when it was time for her and my son to come home.  They started custody proceedings and I went right down the tubes again with the depression and anxiety.  I ended up losing my job (I quit because I couldn't handle the stress anymore) and my son and I went moved away to stay with my Father for a while.  The irony in all of this is the day before I was left (after I had quit my job and packed all my stuff), my daughter calls and says she wants to come home.  I told her I was sorry, but it was too late.  The courts had given her grandmother temporary custody of her and I was not allowed to take her out of the state.  I stayed at my Dad's house for about three months and when I got home she no longer wanted to see me or her brother.  I tried to stay in contact, but her grandmother made it so difficult keeping my daughter so busy she never had time for us.  I told her one day that I never knew when she had a free weekend (she was barrel racing) so I would let her call me and I would come to get her for a visit.  Well, I didn't hear from her for a long while so I called her and asked her what she was doing.  She said nothing and I asked her why she didn't call and she was very hateful and said I was supposed to call her --she wasn't supposed to call me.  I gave up after that and I didn't hear from her until she was about 17.  She called and wanted to see me and her brother, but wanted to meet at my nieces house.  So my son, my Dad and I drove down and when we got there she had her boyfriend with her and was very standoffish and less than friendly.  I felt very uncomfortable.  I managed to get a few minutes with her by myself before she left, but she had very little to say.  Her main topic of conversation was trying to talk my son into coming to visit her grandmother (who my son didn't really want to see) and when he told her he wasn't interested in seeing her she said it was time for her to leave and she wouldn't have anything to do with either of us after that.  I cried for a week and after that my father said he was tired of her attitude and he said he didn't want to deal with her anymore.  I didn't hear from her again until she was 29 and she called me wanting to see me and her brother.  He didn't want to go saying he was leery from the way she acted the last time we saw her so I went (my father had passed away by that time).  We met at the mall and everything was going okay (not great, but okay) until her grandmother and Aunt started calling her on her cell phone every 15 minutes to "see how things were going and if she was okay".  I excused the first phone call, but after the third call, I started getting a little miffed.  And she was staying on the phone with them and ignoring me.  After that I cried for another week and finally gave up again.  I have heard from people who know her that it was "my fault" our visit didn't go well.  I guess I am "expendable" in her life and she has made it more than plain to me that she doesn't need me or want me in her life.  She is a medical professional now.  She makes a lot of money.  I know she is with a man whose family has a lot of money.  I am poor as a church mouse and I am sure would be an embarrassment for her.  I see no hope that she and I will ever have a relationship and I could accept that easier if the rest of my family would quit bothering me about turning my resentment lose and "forgiving" her and everyone involved who contributed to my losing my daughter.  How can you forgive people who keep kicking you in the teeth.  I have a lot of resentment and anger and I don't see it going away any time soon.  I wish all of this hadn't happened, but it did and I can't change history.  Her father (my first husband) was very abusive to me and has never, as far as I know, had to atone for anything he ever did to hurt me or my children.  He was also abusive to my son, but my daughter acts like he's God's gift from heaven.  More resentment and bitterness.  While he was running around hanging out in the bars getting drunk and chasing women, I was at home taking care of my kids, but you don't hear that scenario being batted around much.  There's been a lot of manipulation and dishonesty that has played into all of this for many years and sometimes I can hardly handle thinking about it all.  Any advice would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 07:39:52 AM »
Hi Dawn50 - and welcome.

Your story is a sad one, it nearly made me cry just reading it.  Have you ever seen the movie "The Divine Secrets of the YaYa Sisterhood?"  If you haven't, you should, because I think it will shed some light for you.  It's all about "perception" really, and how a daughter "perceives" her mother's actions growing up.  The main character "Vivi" has issues with anxiety, depression, alcoholism, and abuse.  She has small children, and they grow up thinking they had a horrible mother who didn't love them, when in fact Vivi was trying her best to get help and to better herself as a person and as a mother.  The problem was the way the children "perceived" Vivi's actions when she went away.  They thought she didn't want them and didn't love them, when in fact, she just needed to get away for a while before she seriously hurt her children. 

As a mother, you know why you had to do the things you did, and it sounds very much like you did them not only to better yourself as a person, but also to better yourself as a mother.  However, I'm pretty sure all your daughter could "perceive" is that you left her and didn't want her.  At the young age she was, unfortunately the reasons why didn't matter much to her.  We've all been small children, I'm sure you can relate. 

I hope that someday you get the opportunity to personally explain that, without son or GM interfering.  Maybe a letter?  Email?  Although be careful that you don't "beg" through that venue, and only use it as a tool to explain why you did what you did, and that you always loved and wanted her.  Your daughter may hold onto that grudge, but hopefully she will understand when she's a mother herself and let it go.   

My prayers are with you Dawn50. 

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 08:09:26 AM »
Miss_Priss, that was a beautiful post.

Dawn50, I hope you can resolve this. Please take care.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 10:12:22 AM »
   I hardly know where to start in all of this, my story is sad, long and drawn out as well....   all I know is to stand up, feel the floor under your toes,go get cleaned up, do something positive for someone... no matter how small, (a positive email)and move on with the day. Don't waste your day with thoughts of people that don't care about your well being.  They could be just waiting to see how long it takes them to make you crack!! Turn on some fun music, make a new recipe. You have one life, you have one judge... do your best with what you are given , keep it clean and shiny,and be proud of that!!  love to you....  what a wonderful websight, a place to go, to cry , to help eachother.  my best to you!!
Someone told me one day that they knew a wonderful parent...  he was always there for his kids, always caring, always showing love, giving compliments and wonderful thoughtful gifts, trustworthy, patient and kind.....  well he had two children that shocked and sadden him no matter what he did or said, they were thoughtless, unappreciative, disobedient and destructive ......   their names were Adam and Eve

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 10:25:26 AM »
On this Forum we don't use first names or the names of places in an attempt to protect our privacy and anonymity. I have modified your post accordingly.

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2010, 03:21:19 PM »
Sorry for getting too detailed.  I will be more careful in the future.

Thank you for your posts and thoughtful comments.  I have just recently deactivated my Facebook page and decided to take "a time out" to assess my feelings and relationships with family.  I am thinking very seriously about trying to get some serious counseling only I have no insurance and wonder if I can find the kind of help I need without it.  I know there are family counseling centers that will charge according to income.  I am going to spend the next few days trying to research the resources here.  If any of you have any suggestions, I would appreciate the input.  Thank you again.

I have seen the movie you spoke of, but think it would be beneficial for me to see it again as you have made me see the story in a new perspective.

My Dad passed away more than a decade ago, and I really miss him.  He always understood when I talked to him about all of this.  I wish he was here to talk to now.  He always seemed to be able to lift me up enough to get me going again.  (I always think of him when I hear the song "The Wind Beneath My Wings".  It's funny how you never realize how much you will miss a person until they are gone.)  Love you Dad.



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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2010, 03:28:06 PM »
I had a dad like that, too. What a gift!! :-)) Sending love...

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