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barelythere

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Re: MIL/DIL Problems, why do you think they happen?
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 06:55:36 AM »
But I still think, if your husband would be able to divorce himself from his mother and that fear he keeps inside...and he does what I say, right in front of anyone who is there...she may think twice before ever hurting your feelings again, and I'm sorry, but I blame our sons for allowing this to bloom way out of hand...he really should have put his foot down from the very beginning....

You could be right Creme.  But by the time he did, I think she was just too far in to back out.  In the years I've known her I've seen her "perform" to more people than just me.  She really does not like "outsiders" (that's what she calls us).  Cases and points: 

 1.  When her nephew got married, she threw a tantrum because the bride didn't pick her to be the wedding director (she historically directs ALL the family's weddings, I think because they fear doing otherwise).  At the reception, she made an announcement to ALL 200+ people there, that "the bride better learn to accept <nephew>'s family, or she's gonna have a hard row to hoe!"   (As a side note, this was the same reception where she was drunk and told my daughter she's "take care of Mommy.")  It was an early night for her, my DH packed her up in the car and took her home after she passed out on a picnic table. 

2.  When another nephew's then-girlfriend got pregnant, after 3 years of dating, and mere months before their wedding, MIL says to nephew's girlfriend, in front of girlfriend's family at the baby shower:  "Of all people in the world he coulda went and knocked up...well, I guess we're just stuck with you now."  She laughed like she was joking.  Her family did not think it was funny and asked her to leave. 

3.  Yet another nephew dated the same girl since high school, a very sweet, but rather shy girl.  At nephew's engagement party, MIL tells her Nieces (nephew's younger sisters) "You've got to step it up a notch girls, she's been around way too long and she's just not ever going to fit in here."  Nieces told nephew, nephew told MIL's sister, sister confronts MIL....sister asks MIL to leave.  Noticing a trend???

I could go on and on.  She's embarrassed herself and her family, in public and at private family functions more times than I can count.  And these are just times that I was there!  DH says she's done it his whole life.  When she does things like this its easy to see the color fall right off DH's face and then the embarrassment and humiliation takes over.  But to her, everything she does is completely justified, and she's "not going to change, because that's just who I am!"  His whole life he's just tried to ignore her embarrassing behavior and awful treatment of others, but he finally got tired of it and cut her off.  I'm glad he's mature enough not to have cut off the ENTIRE family, because I love the rest of them so much, and even the other ILs she's humiliated and tried to scare away, we've all bonded over this and I feel like I have "sisters" in this situation.  I am so lucky to have this whack-job out of my life.

yanno what....she is a huge problem...and I don't believe anything you and hubby would do would change her...

Miss Priss, I just posted on another thread and saw it was Anna's Birthday...
She and her hubby are taking a 3 day weekend together...she is trying very hard to consentrate on other things other then her DIL problems..I think she is becoming very wise to do so....

When the kids have grown, they leave home, like they are supposed to do...however, there are some mothers who have gotten used to making they're kids they're entire purpose in life...it's very difficult to change that mindset in an instant....

I envy these MIL's like Anna, b/c she gets to watch her Grand child...and for that I'm happy....I just saw my GC for the first time in 3 years last month, and my son and DIL....it went well, we had a great time....however, we live far away from each other....I wasn't feeling well and wrote my son about it, and out of the clear blue sky, my DIL called me to see what was going on....wasn't that nice of her to do?  I thought so...and I find myself, starting to love her for her kindness, however, I have backed off extremely and allow her to make moves...I want to be her friend, as all of us want....anyway...my point is....sorry, like always I got off track here...(sheesh)  ::)

My point is, you have a husband...here's a suggestion....we get caught up in schedules and routines...I suggest, you forget about MIL as much as possible...you have certainly tried, and now consentrate on whoooing hubby.  Don't ever forget to take time to play, and plan special weekend getaways for the two of you....your husbands will love it...all that attention...

Grab his arm when your walking together, and pretend you just met him. 

You guys don't know how lucky you are to have husbands....consentrate on that...you have a companion there with you to love, to hold, to admire, to experience life with...

Me, my son lives far away....I am alone, except for my neighbors and friends....and I do so miss having a companion...however, I was never lucky at love...always seemed to choose the crumb bumbs to date....I was so immature and so very dependent on being loved at the time when I did choose....so, wallow in your have's and forget about this evil woman....your very very fortunate...don't ever allow her to come inbetween you....I think that is why she's pushing your buttons....not to mention, she's a control freak and way out there somewhere in her own very selfish world.  She has no clue what she is missing in you....and never will....

Hugs and sending love
Creme

Dear Creme,
Many hugs to you.  I love you for making everyone feel good.  You are so special.  :)

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Re: MIL/DIL Problems, why do you think they happen?
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010, 07:13:31 AM »
I'm adding to this today...after reading a post, it reminded me of something all us MIL's must consider....

When our son's marry...we mother's all of a sudden are lost...we vision having a relationship with our son's just like it was...with the exception of now, having a daughter.  However, that woman, doesn't know us, like our son's do, and all of a sudden, our son's really leave home, but more then that, our son's leave us....and they do...

All of their lives, we did for them...we fought for them, worked for them, gave to them first before ourselves, and before we knew what hit us, our kids became our first priority and our purpose.  We wrapped ourselves up in they're lives for 18 or more years..imagine...we reconditioned ourselves to be mothers....

We feel our son's distance for the first time in our lives....they don't confide in us as much, call us as much, or plan trips with us as much....and even are unable to be with us for every family holiday dinner.  It's empty without them, there is just something missing in our lives....they don't stop over as much....

Our son's start a brand new life...they now have a new women in they're lives...oh they still love us and always will, however, we are not they're first love anymore....it is now, all about his wife, and has to be....he is happy, excited, for the first time in his life, he's met the girl of his dreams, and he loves her dearly, whether we approve or not...however, if we don't approve, it crushes him...completely tears him apart....and now, he's put in a position where he feels like he has to choose.  That must be an awful feeling for him...however, he is naturally going to choose hiswife, which is very normal and he should...he is going to confide in her now...she knows every privet detail about him, even more so then us....they are a new couple starting out and planning a family...they are so in love...and anytime we mom's disapprove, or feel we still need control, we're going to alienate her which will alienate him from our lives....

It is natural for our son's to go where his wife wants him to...so that will mean, they will spend more time with her family...she after all, loves her mom, like our son's love us...however, it is her home they will gravitate to...it isn't meant as a personal attack...but natural.  Our DIL's want they're mom's there when they have they're children...that to, is only natural.  I didn't get along with my mother very well, and she didn't like me, however, upon birthing my child, I wanted her there more then anything else in the world....I really wanted her...and needed her.  Not my MIL, but my mother....I had so hoped she would love my son, more then she was able to love me.

Anyway....MIL's please understand, our son's do not love us any less, b/c they have taken a wife, they do however, love us in a different way.  We no longer have control over they're lives...we should encourage them to go forth and prosper in happiness with they're wives....and family...yes, it is very hard to let go...but if we don't and can't...and can't stay out of they're lives as far as suggestions, stopping by without calling....bugging them every day...expecting them to think and feel like we do, is wrong...they don't and won't....you have another woman in your son's life, who thinks and feels so completely different from you....she has her own ideas of how she is going to run her household, raise her kids, and pay her bills.  Anything you do for them, is your choice....don't think b/c you do for them, or give them money, they are going to be more endeared to you..they won't if not already.  Spoiling them, isn't going to buy they're  love...

My suggestion is, learn to stay out of they're lives, completely and realize, it's now they're turn to live...they are, grown up adults....to think otherwise, is wrong, and to do otherwise, will hurt so many other lives...including our own, our husbands, families...them, most of all, our own sons...they are eager to break free of those chains that bind them, to make they're own decssions, to live life on they're own....to take care of they're wives, as we taught them to do, as they watched they're fathers do....now it's they're turn...let go, let go, let go, let go!

If DIL doesn't like you, there is nothing you can do which will change her mind, and the more we push, the further away she runs.  She is young, selfish, in love, and wants that man all to herself....who wouldn't, we did...we felt the very same way....yes, a good wife encourages a man to see his family....she doesn't cause trouble...or is so selfish, she forgets they are not just her in laws, but human beings who love they're son and grand children....I do as I've said before, know DIL's who realize this necessity...who encourage they're husbands to go have dinner with his parents...to take they're mothers out to dinner once a month or so, or say to them, come on, lets go stop by for a visit...they're are DIL's who absolutely realize, that they're in laws need quality time with they're children and how healthy it is for them to let they're children go and experience on they're own....to be to overprotective to prevent them from hurt, only hurts them in the end...b/c when they grown up those children have poor socialization skills, they do not have confidence, and they fear trying new things, or going places alone...and settle for so little....

So, I guess what I'm trying to explain, is....all a mother should want for her son is happiness to experience his own life, the precious love that God meant for a man and woman to experience, to have children and be independent of parents...especially mothers.  Sad but true...we really have no business in they're lives unless they open a door slightly to us...and then we should respect the fact that they've given us that brief moment....b/c that is all we're going to get and less, if there is trouble between her and us....so, it's best to let go, allow the DIL the first move and stop trying to smother son, point fingers of blame and just deal with the time we have left by knowing, we must go forward now...start a new life to....consentrate on other good things, and learn how to once again do for ourselves, to make our own happiness and not be dependent on our children and grand children for that happiness....if we do, we will have a good many stress free years left...life is short, and we need to realize that and take advantage of our lives, take charge of our lives again, get to know your husbands all over again, date, and plan things for the two of you, b/c it's been years since you really knew each other intimately....since the babies came....your husband needs you now...shine for him...keep in close, write him short love notes, plan special occasions for each other...meet new friends...plan a very romantic weekend once in a while, and learn to live all over again, without your sons...b/c it's healthy, it's life, and natural to do so....and stop wanting what you can't have. 

I'm right there with you...and I'm still leaving go....however, every single second that clock ticks....I'm going to live my life again, without him....and be very grateful for the memories...and when they come home, make every second count....even if she would say harsh things, (and she wouldn't) but I'm going to ignore it...let is roll right off my back...b/c I can't control it...and I want him to be happy while he's here and enjoy my grandchild and my DIL....but only if she lets me, otherwise, I'm going to be the lady my son always thought I was, and not react to anyone's dislike or hate.  My only purpose now, in his life, is to be kind to his wife...to approve of her, regardless....not for me, but for him....and then, send them home, feeling comfortable and like it was a great visit...there was no stress, no one was walking on egg shells....

I wave goodbye, feeling very good inside, yet a little sad....but knowing, they are in love, regardless of what I think and feel....inside I know, my purpose is done, my child is grown, I cannot make up for all that guilt time I was working and left him alone with a sitter..cannot make up for the times I was to tired to listen to him, or yelled at him for doing something bad....cannot hug and kiss him anymore like I used to...and yet, I still remember that soft little voice, calling out to me..."Mommy"....and I smile, and know, it's now time for me to wave goodbye, to live life again....and to let them all go home, to his now home...after all, I love him more then life itself, and the purpose of a mother's son, is to live life and experience the wonders of life, on his own....
without me...
bittersweet but perfectly normal....to let them go....

I hope this helps some of you.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2010, 07:35:59 AM by cremebrulee »

barelythere

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Re: MIL/DIL Problems, why do you think they happen?
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2010, 07:52:31 AM »
I'm adding to this today...after reading a post, it reminded me of something all us MIL's must consider....

When our son's marry...we mother's all of a sudden are lost...we vision having a relationship with our son's just like it was...with the exception of now, having a daughter.  However, that woman, doesn't know us, like our son's do, and all of a sudden, our son's really leave home, but more then that, our son's leave us....and they do...

All of their lives, we did for them...we fought for them, worked for them, gave to them first before ourselves, and before we knew what hit us, our kids became our first priority and our purpose.  We wrapped ourselves up in they're lives for 18 or more years..imagine...we reconditioned ourselves to be mothers....

We feel our son's distance for the first time in our lives....they don't confide in us as much, call us as much, or plan trips with us as much....and even are unable to be with us for every family holiday dinner.  It's empty without them, there is just something missing in our lives....they don't stop over as much....

Our son's start a brand new life...they now have a new women in they're lives...oh they still love us and always will, however, we are not they're first love anymore....it is now, all about his wife, and has to be....he is happy, excited, for the first time in his life, he's met the girl of his dreams, and he loves her dearly, whether we approve or not...however, if we don't approve, it crushes him...completely tears him apart....and now, he's put in a position where he feels like he has to choose.  That must be an awful feeling for him...however, he is naturally going to choose hiswife, which is very normal and he should...he is going to confide in her now...she knows every privet detail about him, even more so then us....they are a new couple starting out and planning a family...they are so in love...and anytime we mom's disapprove, or feel we still need control, we're going to alienate her which will alienate him from our lives....

It is natural for our son's to go where his wife wants him to...so that will mean, they will spend more time with her family...she after all, loves her mom, like our son's love us...however, it is her home they will gravitate to...it isn't meant as a personal attack...but natural.  Our DIL's want they're mom's there when they have they're children...that to, is only natural.  I didn't get along with my mother very well, and she didn't like me, however, upon birthing my child, I wanted her there more then anything else in the world....I really wanted her...and needed her.  Not my MIL, but my mother....I had so hoped she would love my son, more then she was able to love me.

Anyway....MIL's please understand, our son's do not love us any less, b/c they have taken a wife, they do however, love us in a different way.  We no longer have control over they're lives...we should encourage them to go forth and prosper in happiness with they're wives....and family...yes, it is very hard to let go...but if we don't and can't...and can't stay out of they're lives as far as suggestions, stopping by without calling....bugging them every day...expecting them to think and feel like we do, is wrong...they don't and won't....you have another woman in your son's life, who thinks and feels so completely different from you....she has her own ideas of how she is going to run her household, raise her kids, and pay her bills.  Anything you do for them, is your choice....don't think b/c you do for them, or give them money, they are going to be more endeared to you..they won't if not already.  Spoiling them, isn't going to buy they're  love...

My suggestion is, learn to stay out of they're lives, completely and realize, it's now they're turn to live...they are, grown up adults....to think otherwise, is wrong, and to do otherwise, will hurt so many other lives...including our own, our husbands, families...them, most of all, our own sons...they are eager to break free of those chains that bind them, to make they're own decssions, to live life on they're own....to take care of they're wives, as we taught them to do, as they watched they're fathers do....now it's they're turn...let go, let go, let go, let go!

If DIL doesn't like you, there is nothing you can do which will change her mind, and the more we push, the further away she runs.  She is young, selfish, in love, and wants that man all to herself....who wouldn't, we did...we felt the very same way....yes, a good wife encourages a man to see his family....she doesn't cause trouble...or is so selfish, she forgets they are not just her in laws, but human beings who love they're son and grand children....I do as I've said before, know DIL's who realize this necessity...who encourage they're husbands to go have dinner with his parents...to take they're mothers out to dinner once a month or so, or say to them, come on, lets go stop by for a visit...they're are DIL's who absolutely realize, that they're in laws need quality time with they're children and how healthy it is for them to let they're children go and experience on they're own....to be to overprotective to prevent them from hurt, only hurts them in the end...b/c when they grown up those children have poor socialization skills, they do not have confidence, and they fear trying new things, or going places alone...and settle for so little....

So, I guess what I'm trying to explain, is....all a mother should want for her son is happiness to experience his own life, the precious love that God meant for a man and woman to experience, to have children and be independent of parents...especially mothers.  Sad but true...we really have no business in they're lives unless they open a door slightly to us...and then we should respect the fact that they've given us that brief moment....b/c that is all we're going to get and less, if there is trouble between her and us....so, it's best to let go, allow the DIL the first move and stop trying to smother son, point fingers of blame and just deal with the time we have left by knowing, we must go forward now...start a new life to....consentrate on other good things, and learn how to once again do for ourselves, to make our own happiness and not be dependent on our children and grand children for that happiness....if we do, we will have a good many stress free years left...life is short, and we need to realize that and take advantage of our lives, take charge of our lives again, get to know your husbands all over again, date, and plan things for the two of you, b/c it's been years since you really knew each other intimately....since the babies came....your husband needs you now...shine for him...keep in close, write him short love notes, plan special occasions for each other...meet new friends...plan a very romantic weekend once in a while, and learn to live all over again, without your sons...b/c it's healthy, it's life, and natural to do so....and stop wanting what you can't have. 

I'm right there with you...and I'm still leaving go....however, every single second that clock ticks....I'm going to live my life again, without him....and be very grateful for the memories...and when they come home, make every second count....even if she would say harsh things, (and she wouldn't) but I'm going to ignore it...let is roll right off my back...b/c I can't control it...and I want him to be happy while he's here and enjoy my grandchild and my DIL....but only if she lets me, otherwise, I'm going to be the lady my son always thought I was, and not react to anyone's dislike or hate.  My only purpose now, in his life, is to be kind to his wife...to approve of her, regardless....not for me, but for him....and then, send them home, feeling comfortable and like it was a great visit...there was no stress, no one was walking on egg shells....

I wave goodbye, feeling very good inside, yet a little sad....but knowing, they are in love, regardless of what I think and feel....inside I know, my purpose is done, my child is grown, I cannot make up for all that guilt time I was working and left him alone with a sitter..cannot make up for the times I was to tired to listen to him, or yelled at him for doing something bad....cannot hug and kiss him anymore like I used to...and yet, I still remember that soft little voice, calling out to me..."Mommy"....and I smile, and know, it's now time for me to wave goodbye, to live life again....and to let them all go home, to his now home...after all, I love him more then life itself, and the purpose of a mother's son, is to live life and experience the wonders of life, on his own....
without me...
bittersweet but perfectly normal....to let them go....

I hope this helps some of you.

That's beautifully put, Cremebrulet.  I think at first, it is a shock to us when we know our son is married but when his wife talks to us rudely (if she does), we are bumfuzzled and don't know where to turn.

I read some of your old posts last night and it can literally knock your socks off because prior to that time, our sons would have never allowed anyone to talk to us like that.  It just takes a lot of getting used to. Some people snap back at the DIL which is a "no no", no matter what she says to us.  This kind of thing usually happens only to Mothers of sons.  I have never seen it happen to Mothers of Daughters personally, although from reading on this site, I can see where it does indeed happen.  Usually, the Daughters are in some kind of abusive relationship but it's not like that most of the times with our sons, I hope!

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Re: MIL/DIL Problems, why do you think they happen?
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2010, 08:23:15 AM »
yes, so you read some of my older posts and know that I've been through it
and it was painful....
however, the very last thing I tried to do was to change my attitude...and it's one of the most difficult things I did....but along with that, over time, came the realization of all I've written above....which was the mindset, slowly seeping in and I started to get it....
I wanted it just like it was before her...with her in it....but realized, it couldn't be....and now, inside, as much as I said then, "I've tried everything, and done all I can do", I hadn't....what I did was cop the attitude that the one woman comes in here and posts, and everyone cheers her on and calls her they're hero....however, I let go of any bitterness....all the anger, and frustration, b/c I knew that was the only way it was going to work.

I will never had what I had, and neither will any of you....even my one girlfriend told me, who is very close to her DIL's....it's never going to be the same...your life changes forever, but it can be a good change, if you let it be....

It was....

So, there are some gals in here, who post and go on about they only get to see they're grand kids once a week, or once a month....and I think to myself....God, I wish I had that....my son and DIL live far away in another state....but it's ok now, cuz I'm at peace with it all...learning what I've posted here was difficult...and there are no buts about it, no right or wrongs....if you don't do it...if you don't feel it, if you don't practice it, it won't happen....took me twelve years girl...twelve long years...cuz I wanted it the way it was....and I felt I didn't do anything wrong...but I did...even though I didn't mean to, I hurt her feelings....and it wasn't intended....but I did things wrong....however slight, however unintentional...she was hurting to....and so are most of your DIL's, no matter how mean they are to you....we all deal with hurt in different ways and some get a whole lot meaner then others....women can be vile when they feel they've been crossed...

What was tearing me apart...was not only DIL's treatment of me, but what I wasn't able to do to correct it....so I pushed harder and harder only to be rejected more....but still wasn't getting what I needed to do to make peace with it all...I wasn't letting it all go.....I was running around like a chicken without a head, screaming for validation of my feelings, screaming for approval for feeling alone and hurt, and for disliking my DIL....that's what killed me the most...this was my son's wife...and I disliked her, but wanted so much to love her....so I do believe, the conflict was in me much more then her, and everytime something happened that I didn't understand, b/c I didn't know her or trust her....I went...."ohhhh see, she hates me, she's trying to drive a wedge between me and my son"....and she wasn't....I was perceiving the whole thing wrong, and she thought the same about me...and it kept on escalating, everytime we got together, until each of us were looking for the negative in each other, waiting for the ball to drop....another strick against each other for the smallest things....when it was the mood she was in, or how she was raised and used to being....so, we both had our feathers ruffeled and our swords drawn.....

Again, everyone's situation is different...this was just my experience.
however, if there is only one lady in here who understands, then all my posts will have been of some help to someone....and that is what I'm hoping for...maybe someday, some woman a MIL will come into this forum and read my posts, and she's going to get it....and realize, what she has to do, to help herself....to help her son, to be able to slowly get to know her DIL....

Do you know, when I backed off in the past, before things were resolved, and left them alone, was when I heard from my DIL?  That's true....when I dropped it all and gave it to God, and started consentrating on living this new life I had, she would call....and it took months....but it worked....I think we both needed time....especially her....and we both matured...and realized a lot....
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Re: MIL/DIL Problems, why do you think they happen?
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2010, 08:31:17 AM »
You are a hero too, Creme.  You have come through the fire and are refined like silver.  Some people have such a hard time going through the fire.  It burns like the dickens.  It is a difficult transition for any Mother of a son so it's bound to be hard.  I'm glad you're on the other side.  I am getting there.  Thankfully, what once was pain is now replaced with apathy.  I never dreamed I'd get to that place but it hurts less than the fire!

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Re: MIL/DIL Problems, why do you think they happen?
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2010, 09:17:44 AM »
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barelythere
You are a hero too, Creme.

No, no, while I appreciate your kindness...what I was trying to say, is, I so admire that woman who everyone cheers on, me included, she's got the right attitude.....I think her name is Keys something, and she is such an inspiration to everyone here....she's made of the right stuff...and she gets it.... 

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You have come through the fire and are refined like silver.  Some people have such a hard time going through the fire.  It burns like the dickens.  It is a difficult transition for any Mother of a son so it's bound to be hard.
 
Yes, it burns like hell on earth...and maybe this  is hell on earth, I don't know, however, what I do know it is a very very very slow process to reach...you've got to want it more then anything else in the world...you've got to forgive and reach way deep down inside and realize, and take ownership....I remember towards the end, I had what you might call an awakening, where I started to realize, "Hey, I've got to have ownership in this" and I started listening to my son...he was so frustrated so angry, all he wanted was for us to get along....it was hurting him terrible....and I was able to listen to him instead of thinking he was defending her, what he was doing was trying to make me understand, she didn't hate me, she was just as frustrating and hurt as I was....however, as you know, when we women get hurt, we really get evil....and start thinking all kinds of things, and we perceive things so wrong under that kind of duress....I remember, thinking things about her that were not even true...I was frantic...and felt so rejected, so unwelcome, and all this stuff was building and building into something that wasn't real....it was all my perceptions and hers out of kilter....the negative energy we were both sending each other...awful....just awful...I came very close to hating her...and I hated myself for feeling that way...that was my very own persecution...hate begets nothing but bad stuff....and you start to imagine things that are not true, b/c your telling yourself, "I didn't do anything"  but when I allowed myself to listen, without taking it personal, I realized how wrong I was...oh so very wrong....I did do things, no matter how small they might seem, they were big to her and very hurtful....evil and mean, b/c of her perceptions and how she was raised.
Now, I can't help but wonder how many people in school, friends, family members, and the work place I've hurt without even knowing? Boy friends I broke up with, yanno?  I'm not self persecuting, but that is what came to mind...

Yanno, we go thru life, being who we are, taking so much for granted, and whine about what we don't have, and yet, when we sit down and think about it, we have so much more then most....there is always someone worse off and we forgot just how good we do have it....we forget to look for good, and forget how to be happy....happiness is truly in the eyes of the beholder, no one else can give us happiness but ourselves....and when we start to remember all the good that we have, we sens out a positive energy.  When we stop whining to friends about our problems, they start to wonder "who is this new person".  No one wants to be around someone who is always complaining and whining and miserable. 
But it takes a lot of work, to first identify our weaknesses and wrongs, and then admit it, and accept it as our own...we are human beings and we make mistakes....all of us...to say it is one thing, but to take ownership and embrace the bad part of ourselves as much as the good part, is loving ourselves, and then, we can start to change.  And I so want to change until the day I die...never do I want to think I know it all and make no mistakes...I want to continue to evolve my life, and continue on the path I'm supposed to....be it alone, or with friends and loved ones....

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I'm glad you're on the other side.  I am getting there.  Thankfully, what once was pain is now replaced with apathy.  I never dreamed I'd get to that place but it hurts less than the fire!

I'm smiling...yes, I know, it takes a lot of hard work, however, it's well worth it...and I really hope and pray it takes you much less time then it took me....
When you do, it's like coming into an open meadow, with butterfly's and forest animals all around, the light is just beautiful, and the colors are so vivid and happy....and all of a sudden your there....your home...peace and harmony!  Your complete!

The trick is belief...and loving yourself...letting go of all insecurity and knowing yourself....self evaluation and accepting your flaws as perfection...perfection that works for only you on whatever path you are meant to take....the Asians call it, "facing your demons" which to me always sounded so frightening...

and get this...did you ever begin to think, that maybe just maybe this was all supposed to happen...so that you learned from it...everything that happens to us in our lives, is choreographed especially for us, to keep learning...do you realize how miraculous that is?

I think some Christains call this awakening, meeting God....but in all actuality, God gave us life, it's up to us to decide what to do with it....it's our choice and our free will.  We can view life as hell on earth, or we can wake up and smell the roses...it's all up to us...but no one, can make us feel anything we don't want to feel, except ourselves....

We are, what we believe...

Hugs, it's been really great sharing with you...thanks so much for your input...
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Re: MIL/DIL Problems, why do you think they happen?
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2010, 09:21:01 AM »
Creme...You are one tough cookie:) I am so glad to read this post and am very happy that you have realized what it takes. I am printing this off and going to refer to it daily. I am going to learn to let go:) Your an awesome person. Hope all continues well for you an your family.
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2010, 09:26:04 AM »
Creme...You are one tough cookie:) I am so glad to read this post and am very happy that you have realized what it takes. I am printing this off and going to refer to it daily. I am going to learn to let go:) Your an awesome person. Hope all continues well for you an your family.

Juju, thank you for this....it give me such joy to know that you understand and to want it so bad...you can do it, honestly, it's not hard to do...I made it hard...but even if you don't succeed with whomever, you will suceed with you...and the beauty of that is incredible...I call it foregiveness complete utter forgiveness...a lot of times, our anger is misdirected anger...this person we're forced to not get along with, is our sometimes whipping post...but you've got to go deep inside...

JuJu, I wish you nothing but love....


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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2010, 11:01:56 AM »
I've learned a lot from you Creme. Thank you!

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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2010, 02:51:00 PM »
It's wonderful to watch you guys work with each other. What partnering!  ;D

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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2010, 06:40:14 AM »
Thank you, I've learned so many things here in these pages...and can't thank you all enough for your inputs, even if you disagree with me, it's ok, there is always someone more you share that helps me...I find it fun when you all join in and we discuss...it's great theropy and enlightening...
Many Thanks to all of you...especially you Luise...I don't know where you find the time to still come in and help us along...your all great women.

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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2010, 10:51:46 AM »
I forwarded that to Kirk, Creme. He doesn't follow our posts. He's just done a lot of work (again) updating our website software and likes to know it continues to be of value.

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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2010, 05:25:37 PM »
Well then, a great big thank you to Kirk for all the work he is doing for us...

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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2010, 06:06:29 PM »
I forwarded that, too!  ;D

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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2010, 09:13:23 PM »
  I have my Bachelor's degree in Mathematics, I'm working on my masters', I have a good job and make enough to support myself comfortably, I lived alone in my own apartment for 4 years before I met DH and supported myself, I had no children at the time, no real "baggage,"  my own car, I'm blonde and petite...I'm no Miss America, but I'm decent looking.  I'm secure and confident in myself...

Miss Priss, I guess I am on WWU for many reasons and I know one thing I have a problem with which is not ANYONE else's fault but my own and a big one for me is insecurity.  We are here so we can vent..no way in the world is this a critisizm, to the contrary I admire you.   But I go "my god" this girl is great and it also comes through in so many of these posts that you are bright and successful women.    I wish I could "get over myself you know"  What is MY problem????
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