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Daughter is manipulative
« on: August 01, 2010, 02:21:06 PM »
Hello everyone....
 I am a 42 year old new grandmother and a mother to one daughter who is 20 years old...My daughter is very rude to me an has never helped me when I have needed it. In April when her boyfriend left she decided she needed me in her life an for awhile it all went well. June 13Th we went to the hospital to have her induced and I was the labor coach because the boyfriend did not want to be part of it.Well it ended up an emergency c-sec an 3 weeks in the hospital as she had post op infection..I took care of her an the baby an provided for everything all on my own....Now she is better an healthy an I have a health grandaughter..My issue is my daughter has now pushed me away an acts as if I am nothing an she has told me that she is the mother an it is her life an my advice is not needed nor am I.. My heart is breaking and the only time I can see the baby is when I babysit.I am babysitting 50 hours a week starting tomorrow other than that I am to stay away..I am SO sad an depressed.I keep my mouth shut an keep to myself so she does not take the baby from me. I don't know why she is like that and in fact I do not like my daughter very much.I have no living family except my daughter an I am so confused an sad..Thanks for listening:)
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 02:55:28 PM »
Hello everyone....
 I am a 42 year old new grandmother and a mother to one daughter who is 20 years old...My daughter is very rude to me an has never helped me when I have needed it. In April when her boyfriend left she decided she needed me in her life an for awhile it all went well. June 13Th we went to the hospital to have her induced and I was the labor coach because the boyfriend did not want to be part of it.Well it ended up an emergency c-sec an 3 weeks in the hospital as she had post op infection..I took care of her an the baby an provided for everything all on my own....Now she is better an healthy an I have a health grandaughter..My issue is my daughter has now pushed me away an acts as if I am nothing an she has told me that she is the mother an it is her life an my advice is not needed nor am I.. My heart is breaking and the only time I can see the baby is when I babysit.I am babysitting 50 hours a week starting tomorrow other than that I am to stay away..I am SO sad an depressed.I keep my mouth shut an keep to myself so she does not take the baby from me. I don't know why she is like that and in fact I do not like my daughter very much.I have no living family except my daughter an I am so confused an sad..Thanks for listening:)

Dear JuJu,
It breaks my heart to say this but you are a prisoner in a prison your daughter has made for you. It's just as real a prison as any out there.  I don't know much about how to get out of this heartbreaking place she has you in but I know the others will.  You know in your heart that you are allowing her to put you in prison but I know you can't help it.  Bless you.

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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2010, 03:32:48 PM »
Hello everyone....
 I am a 42 year old new grandmother and a mother to one daughter who is 20 years old...My daughter is very rude to me an has never helped me when I have needed it. In April when her boyfriend left she decided she needed me in her life an for awhile it all went well. June 13Th we went to the hospital to have her induced and I was the labor coach because the boyfriend did not want to be part of it.Well it ended up an emergency c-sec an 3 weeks in the hospital as she had post op infection..I took care of her an the baby an provided for everything all on my own....Now she is better an healthy an I have a health grandaughter..My issue is my daughter has now pushed me away an acts as if I am nothing an she has told me that she is the mother an it is her life an my advice is not needed nor am I.. My heart is breaking and the only time I can see the baby is when I babysit.I am babysitting 50 hours a week starting tomorrow other than that I am to stay away..I am SO sad an depressed.I keep my mouth shut an keep to myself so she does not take the baby from me. I don't know why she is like that and in fact I do not like my daughter very much.I have no living family except my daughter an I am so confused an sad..Thanks for listening:)

this is appalling and emotional blackmail on your daughters part...it is in human and un natural to treat your parents like this...your daughter, I think has severe problems...and you are in a place where you have two choices....and please, anyone, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

you've got to stop allowing her to treat you like this...baby or not...and I know you think it's easy for me to say...but I've been there...in a different situation...

you cannot base your happiness and purpose on having your Grand child or daughter in your life....

so, you can either take it or make a difference by telling her she is not allowed to treat you like this...

however, before you make any decissions, I would get into counseling and see if you can't get your daughter in...b/c your grandchild will grow up just like her...and, or, worse...so, in my mind, she is priority...regardless of your feelings for her...try and put them aside a little and gain strength by going to a counselor, perhaps your daughter will join you later...but you will learn how to deal with her...and tell the counselor right out, you are there to learn how to deal with her...not to simply vent....you need help and answers...

God bless you dearheart...

and please keep writing.

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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 03:50:02 PM »
Im  so angry with your daughter.....yeee.....dont babysit for her and see what she does.  She knows you only have her and the baby and is being abusive and selfish..... 

You are too nice.  She knows it and has sized you already.   

You dont like her at this moment.....well hold back....un til she learns to appreciate, love and respect you.   

I wish you the best of luck. 
Love is not love Which alters when it alteration finds, Or bends with the remover to remove:
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 03:54:15 PM »
Thank you so very much for your comments. I know I am in a prison built by my daughter couldn't have put it any better. I actually have my first counseling appt tomorrow, as I am so confused an have no one to talk to so I thought counseling would help.I know you are right saying to walk away, I do not like my daughter nor the person she has become.Long before the baby came I told her lets try counseling,however she Say's she is not the one with the problem,I am. I am far from perfect,but I gave up everything even nursing school so I could work 3 jobs and provide for her an give her all she wanted.I was a single parent from the time she was a year old and never received any support from her father.I would walk away from my daughter in a minute but it is the baby that I want to be around.After she had the baby I took care of baby day an night for 3 weeks because of my daughter being in the hospital. I am so confused and again thanks so much for listening :)
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 04:49:11 PM »
I am sure glad you are seeking an advocate. Something more may be involved. Your daughter may be suffering from Post Postpartum Psychosis and you may be suffering from exhaustion. You need professional intervention to sort it out. Sending love...

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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 09:18:32 PM »
Well thanks again ladies:) I went to counseling today an it seemed to be a good choice for me.I watched the baby all day an that was awesome.I still have to walk on eggshells around my daughter.The counselor said I need to set boundaries,but if I do that an tell my daughter some of my rules an expectations she will make that a reason to take the baby away.Wow this is sooo frustrating.I am sorry to vent I know others have it worse then me. I hope all is well with everyone I have trying to find my way around your forum it is a wonderful site:) :)
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 09:58:16 PM »
No need to apologize for venting that's one thing our Forum is for. Sending love...

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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 11:34:56 AM »
I am so sick of the way my daughter treats me.I have been up all night crying an puking due to stress. She is now taking back the baby's father ,an telling me what a piece of crap I was as a mother an if I say anything about her decisions I will not see the baby. I do not get it. I gave up everything in my life to raise her an give her all she needed an wanted.I live 10 feet away from her I just want to run away.I can't deal with all the pain she throws at me.I feel like I am in a deep dark pit just peeking out .an she just comes an steps on me an shoves me into the hole of darkness. I do not know why she is so cruel an does not care about anyone,but herself.I did not raise her to be this way..Please anyone have advice. I would walk away,but what about my grandaughter? I am so depressed.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 10:08:36 PM »
My heart goes out to you!! My daughter has said mean, cruel things to me before the birth of my newest granddaughter, born a little over 2 weeks ago. She has her boyfriend believing everything she has told him about me. Her first daughter (2 and 1/2) is living with the new boyfriend too, but he is being a very good provider and is very loving to my daughter and both children.
My counselor has me waiting for my daughter to call me first...which has been very difficult, but is helping. I counted the 9 days I waited until my daughter called to say they were coming over to my house,, only one hour notice! I have a baby shower with the boyfriend's family on Saturday and my counselor told me to just be ME. My friends like me, other people that meet me like me, etc. Hopefully, the boyfriend's family will learn to accept me and not totally believe the things she has told them.
I am hurting so badly now reading these posts, but I too need help. I was there for the birth of her first daughter and they lived with me for 3months. Now, I hardly get to see her and she and I were very close. She does know how to press a button on my daughter's cell phone to call me and she does it without her mommy knowing! That touched my soul that she wanted to talk to me.
My daughter has mood swings and according to my counselor will always (things in her past). I just have to accept this and go with the flow. And,, I need to do what is good for ME. I even realized one day, my daughter noticed a change in me and she acted a little jealous. I think once they see us taking care of us and see that we have our friends and another life, they may gain a new respect for us. Just a guess, but I am going to continue trying this. She has her new family now and I cannot control or change her. All, I know is I feel she is a spoiled brat! And I did not raise her that way. Again, it hurts more than I can explain, but I know you know how much this hurts.
I feel your daughter will sway back and forth with the boyfriend and you. I have seen my friend's daughters do that. Do find things for you to do. I even go out of the house just so my family knows I went somewhere, even though I had no where to go. I started dressing better etc. And it does help to Act As IF you are happy. There just has to be something about some mother/daughter relationships where there is always some kind of struggle. Although, I have a spouse who mistreats me and was told she learned to mistreat me by watching him do it and by my never leaving him.
Whatever the reasons, we need to take care of us. I will keep up with your posts seeing how things go so I can learn too. AGain, my heart goes out to you and I do feel your pain. cdb

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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 10:57:52 PM »
juju68, she is a fine piece of work that one.    Saying "your daughter" doesn't sit well with me.   Why would you claim her???  That girls attitude.... I don't like to say it but  it makes me sick.    I feel very angry with her for calling you a piece of crap when your crime in all this is you have wanted to help and support her.  Is she really worth making yourself sick over.   You gave up so much in your life so you could give her the best you could and that is how she thanks you !!!! well you ... you might be saying right now "she's my daughter and deep down i love her etc. etc. "   It's obvious from your posts you miss your litle gd.  I understand how hard this is for you.   Improve the quality of your life.   Keep reminding yourself YOU ARE IMPORTANT   
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2010, 11:19:45 PM »
Ditto: WE are all important!
Just realized my reply was so darned long under your post. I do find it does help to let feelings out.

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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 07:03:14 AM »
Thanks for the replies it means so much to look on here and have some answers or just some kind words.
Cdb.... I am sorry your daughter is that way to you an "boy o boy "do I know the pain. That is a good idea to just go somewhere or do something,even if I have no place to go..lol. I wonder why it is our children are such rude girls? I think you are pretty smart lady. I Realized that one reason she treats me like this is her father treated me this way,but I did leave him. To read your post makes me think this  is my story or I could be writing it. I have to get over this pain an so do you ,so beetween your counseling an mine an our two brains hahah, we can figure it out.
 Julia...To be honest I really have to say I do not like my daughter at all..if she were a coworker or something like that I would avoid her,because she is so selfish an all about her. I do love my GD but I am going to have to do something to keep from getting hurt. For now I will keep my mouth shut when she drops the baby off. I don't have to talk to her about anything of importance. Thanks ladies an I am praying for all of us.. WE are IMPORTANT:)
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 01:59:19 PM »
I totally agree with Luise - there is somthing wrong there, there has to be.  Whether it's postpardom psychosis or a genuine personality disorder...something is off.  "Balanced" people do not act that way, and they especially don't expect favors afterwards!  She needs therapy, maybe even medication.  I'm not a doctor, but I know this isn't right. 

By keeping up with the babysitting job, you are enabling her.  She realizes you are desperate to see your grandchildren, therefore you haven't yet shown her the spine to tell her you will not take her abuse.  Sure you made mistakes, but she's an adult and she should know better than to hold that grudge forever...people go to therapy all the time to learn how to let go of those childhood issues, that doesn't mean they're crazy!  Your counselor was correct, you must set boundaries for yourself, and it's as easily asserted as "your behavior towards me is unacceptable and if it does not improve, I will no longer let you use me as your babysitter."  That's easier said than done, I'm sure of it. 

I have to think that somewhere in here your young daughter is trying to assert her adulthood and independence, again, in a nuclear-bomb kind of way.  So many young adults get thrown into sudden responsibility and accountability by premature pregnancies and that must be hard to adjust to, on top of the hormones and other issues.  That doesn't make it right, but may be food for thought. 

I hope she comes around and gets "balanced," and if she doesn't I hope you find the strength to stand up for yourself.  Praying for strength for you....

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010, 02:49:36 PM »
I'd have to say to her, if she rejected counseling by saying, "I'm not the one with the problem"....it takes two.

Also, and I know this is hard...however, If my child treated me like this, I'd tell him/her to find another babysitter, as I will not be talked to like that...

I understand you want to see the baby...but my boiling point would interfer but quick....

I'd also tell her, if the time comes when you need me to babysit, don't even think about it until you start going to counseling. 

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juju, I found an awesome site which faith posted here and thought of you...maybe this will help you....

http://www.wisewomenunite.com/index.php/topic,809.new.html#new

the site is really awsome and very informative
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