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Families don't have to be biological families.  You can have a much better family with friends who treat you well, love you and don't play games laced with hostility for you.

I would replace anyone with a new "family" member, you can have a huge new family of people, just because they don't have the same blood lines doesn't make them less valuable.

I would reduce my expectations to "0" for these sons and daughters who are acting out.  It's an adult version of a tantrum.

I would shut them out, let phone calls go to voice mail, leave emails unreplied, go on vacation without telling them.  Everyone hates being ignored and there is nothing more irritating to a spoiled brat than finding out that everyone else is going on with their lives and not letting them have the power to "run the show" and wreak havoc.

Do they deserve to be in your life? Do you want them in your life? Would you take that kind of treatment from someone else?  Your choice.  We all have to chose, and I'm not saying the choices are easy, but there are choices that can lead to a more joyful life on your own terms, not one someone else's who is used to the sacrificing that most parents have done.

I'm working on the premise that sometimes good things come from bad things if you can find a way to make a minus into a positive.  Keeping the patterns of bad behavior and suffering parents is a lose/lose situation.  The kids never learn to grow up and the parents become resentful and sorrowful, and they don't live forever, so as the years go by, the parents have more to lose.

There's a big world of people out there, and I think there should be an island, maybe a couple of miles from the North Pole where you could exile the badly behaved and spoiled offsprings and their spouses and they could all complain together.....maybe a reality tv show in the works........I'll start the casting, write and produce it........I'll call it "Surviving Parents ......of ...... Spoiled Princesses and Princes".......ahhhh the drama......maybe one one of those beaten down spouses will revolt and dump the dragon princess in front of a massive TV audience to the cheers of millions of 50+ parents........

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Families don't have to be biological families.  You can have a much better family with friends who treat you well, love you and don't play games laced with hostility for you.

I would replace anyone with a new "family" member, you can have a huge new family of people, just because they don't have the same blood lines doesn't make them less valuable.

I would reduce my expectations to "0" for these sons and daughters who are acting out.  It's an adult version of a tantrum.

I would shut them out, let phone calls go to voice mail, leave emails unreplied, go on vacation without telling them.  Everyone hates being ignored and there is nothing more irritating to a spoiled brat than finding out that everyone else is going on with their lives and not letting them have the power to "run the show" and wreak havoc.

Do they deserve to be in your life? Do you want them in your life? Would you take that kind of treatment from someone else?  Your choice.  We all have to chose, and I'm not saying the choices are easy, but there are choices that can lead to a more joyful life on your own terms, not one someone else's who is used to the sacrificing that most parents have done.

I'm working on the premise that sometimes good things come from bad things if you can find a way to make a minus into a positive.  Keeping the patterns of bad behavior and suffering parents is a lose/lose situation.  The kids never learn to grow up and the parents become resentful and sorrowful, and they don't live forever, so as the years go by, the parents have more to lose.

There's a big world of people out there, and I think there should be an island, maybe a couple of miles from the North Pole where you could exile the badly behaved and spoiled offsprings and their spouses and they could all complain together.....maybe a reality tv show in the works........I'll start the casting, write and produce it........I'll call it "Surviving Parents ......of ...... Spoiled Princesses and Princes".......ahhhh the drama......maybe one one of those beaten down spouses will revolt and dump the dragon princess in front of a massive TV audience to the cheers of millions of 50+ parents........

Keys Girl, of course I take everything you say and try to apply it. I've found you to be my Tony Robbins!  I think this is what my Daughter in law would love for us to do, not tell them anything about us so we can go away but we have to if we are going to keep sane.  Each slap in the face by them is getting less painful.  Our son was the nicest guy, caring and loving to us and others.  Oh boy, what a difference cupcake has made in his life. 

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I know, that's the rub; that's one reason it's so hard to walk away...we don't want to give DIL what she wants since she's gotten so much already. What we want is some sort of compromise, as if we were dealing with rational people. When that doesn't seem likely it's best to take care of ourselves. If DIL sees it as a "win" for her, so be it - we know it's a major step forward for us!

Our DIL (and DS, let's be honest) have never invited us to their home except to help them move. On one of the hottest days on record we oldsters worked from dawn to dark, without being offered any refreshment of any kind by DIL. DS was pretty good about making sure DH had water, and finally offered to buy lunch late in the day when I refused to do any more work without a break. DIL threw a snit, but I didn't care - she wasn't going to kill my DH on my watch, no way. Where were her parents? On a lovely cruise! Never again.
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KG,
I have read this thread with enthusiasm.  I love your spirit, sense of humor, strength, and self respect.  It is contagious.
Keep on keeping on.
Hugs, Hope
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I know, that's the rub; that's one reason it's so hard to walk away...we don't want to give DIL what she wants since she's gotten so much already. What we want is some sort of compromise, as if we were dealing with rational people. When that doesn't seem likely it's best to take care of ourselves. If DIL sees it as a "win" for her, so be it - we know it's a major step forward for us!

Our DIL (and DS, let's be honest) have never invited us to their home except to help them move. On one of the hottest days on record we oldsters worked from dawn to dark, without being offered any refreshment of any kind by DIL. DS was pretty good about making sure DH had water, and finally offered to buy lunch late in the day when I refused to do any more work without a break. DIL threw a snit, but I didn't care - she wasn't going to kill my DH on my watch, no way. Where we her parents? On a lovely cruise! Never again.

I sooo understand.  That's like when we moved soon to be DILs entire apartment without her turning one single hand.  Just sat on her fanny the whole time.  Letting them go will be just what she wants.   

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KG,
I have read this thread with enthusiasm.  I love your spirit, sense of humor, strength, and self respect.  It is contagious.
Keep on keeping on.
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Keys Girl -  What you wrote is perfect.  It does not matter what I do or say I am always judged by FDIL and DS #1.  I have finally decided to distance myself from them, everytime I see them my DS#1 says something that is hurtful and I am much more happy with him not around anymore.  Again, I just dont' understand how FDIL and DS #1 think it's okay to put rules on me in my own home.  FDIL will not budge on the GF of DS #2.  She really never took the time to get to know GF, but can't stand her.  Now my DS #1 is not talking to DS #2 because DS#1 is disappointed in DS#2 choice to  start dating GF again.   I am sad because FDIL has now succeeded in splitting up our family.  FDIL and DS#1 wedding is in December this year and I was so happy now I just want it over.  Keys Girl you have summed up everything that I am feeling.  I am now trying to meet new people and make some new friends.  I am only 52 and I have alot of life to live but I will definitely need help in getting through the rough days because I love my DS #1 very much and all I want is for him to be happy.

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I sense a lot of pain from you posts.  Behind all the toughness and ruggedness, there is a person that is vulnerable and that has been hurt a lot. I am sorry for the injustice that has happened to you. I am glad to see however that you know you are able to take good care of yourself.
I think it was your absolute right to refuse to pay for the ring or pitch in for the wedding and that your decision ought to have been respected. You have done all your best bringing up your child and he is responsible for himself now.

As for the ultimatum, I agree with 1Glitterati. Ultimatums only work if you follow through completely and you have let go of the outcome. Meaning that you will be able to accept whatever the outcome will be.
Life is not black and white, people are not black and white and all-or-nothing approach can leave us soon lonely. To set the consequences for unacceptable behavior is completely ok and can also be done in other ways.

For instance:

If you break your plans with me by not showing up or by calling me at the last minute to tell me that you had something else come up, I will confront your behavior and share my feelings. If you repeat that behavior, I will consider it to mean that you do not value or deserve my friendship - and I will have no contact with you for a month.

Since behavior patterns are quite ingrained in all of us, it is important to allow the other person some wiggle room to make a change in behavior - unless the behavior is really intolerable.  To go from one extreme to the other is a reaction to a reaction - and is codependent.  There are choices in between which are sometimes hard for us to see if we are reacting.  It is helpful to set boundaries that allow for some gradual change.

The consequences we set down for behavior we find unacceptable should be realistic - in that, the change that we are asking for is something that is within the others power (rather they are willing to take that responsibility is another thing altogether) - and enforceable, something that we are willing to do.

I read you have decided not to share your vulnerabilities with them, have no contact (other than email once in 60 days), turn off you phone on the next Mother's Day,  do not expect to speak to either of them anytime soon, refuse to give your approval, etc. That is fine when this is what you truly want in your heart and it works for you and makes you happy in the end. I just wonder if part of it is reacting to the treatment you have been subjected to and is therefore coming from the resentment you might feel.



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Re: Advice needed - Future daughter-in-law is allowing contact only via her
« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2010, 04:27:56 AM »
KeysGirl-I can so much relate to and begin to understand your feelings in this matter.  As I have read through your post, I felt like I was reading my own!  So many parallels.  I am so sorry for the grief your are experiencing.  Sounds like your son has meant the world to you, and losing him in this way is almost as bad a death.  I fully empathize with you here-I feel the same.  I have been learning to let go-as the saying goes 'We hold our children's hands for awhile, hold them in our hearts forever.'  May your find peace, as you pick up the shattered pieces of your heart and fashion a new window of hope-I work at this daily. 

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Re: Advice needed - Future daughter-in-law is allowing contact only via her
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2010, 05:04:29 AM »
I sense a lot of pain from you posts.  Behind all the toughness and ruggedness, there is a person that is vulnerable and that has been hurt a lot. I am sorry for the injustice that has happened to you. I am glad to see however that you know you are able to take good care of yourself.
I think it was your absolute right to refuse to pay for the ring or pitch in for the wedding and that your decision ought to have been respected. You have done all your best bringing up your child and he is responsible for himself now.

As for the ultimatum, I agree with 1Glitterati. Ultimatums only work if you follow through completely and you have let go of the outcome. Meaning that you will be able to accept whatever the outcome will be.
Life is not black and white, people are not black and white and all-or-nothing approach can leave us soon lonely. To set the consequences for unacceptable behavior is completely ok and can also be done in other ways.

For instance:

If you break your plans with me by not showing up or by calling me at the last minute to tell me that you had something else come up, I will confront your behavior and share my feelings. If you repeat that behavior, I will consider it to mean that you do not value or deserve my friendship - and I will have no contact with you for a month.

Since behavior patterns are quite ingrained in all of us, it is important to allow the other person some wiggle room to make a change in behavior - unless the behavior is really intolerable.  To go from one extreme to the other is a reaction to a reaction - and is codependent.  There are choices in between which are sometimes hard for us to see if we are reacting.  It is helpful to set boundaries that allow for some gradual change.

The consequences we set down for behavior we find unacceptable should be realistic - in that, the change that we are asking for is something that is within the others power (rather they are willing to take that responsibility is another thing altogether) - and enforceable, something that we are willing to do.

I read you have decided not to share your vulnerabilities with them, have no contact (other than email once in 60 days), turn off you phone on the next Mother's Day,  do not expect to speak to either of them anytime soon, refuse to give your approval, etc. That is fine when this is what you truly want in your heart and it works for you and makes you happy in the end. I just wonder if part of it is reacting to the treatment you have been subjected to and is therefore coming from the resentment you might feel.
Faith, since we're constantly hurt and disappointed in them, what are we left with to do?  It's apparent that my son's wife has systematically taken control of him and nothing but hurt and neglect has ensued. You can't imagine what that feels like.  I read on this site the explanation of narcissistic behavior.  I think it was written by Cremebulet.  This is totally my DIL.  One of the sentences says she watches for any slight of her and if there is, it's  heaped on you but in a worse way. 
An explanation below:

She strongly disapproves of others' personal autonomy and independence. Even innocuous activities, such as meeting a friend or visiting one's family require her permission. Gradually, she isolates his nearest and dearest until they are fully dependent on her emotionally, sexually, financially, and socially.

The narcissist's sense of self, which has not progressed past that of a very young child, they cannot deal with the reality of a mirror being held up before them. Unlike the alcoholic who may in due course "see the light", a narcissist simply does not have the emotional skills to step outside of themselves and glimpse the truth in the mirror. The essence of NPD is that the sufferer lives in a bubble that can only accommodate themselves. Self-reflection is definitely not in the narcissist's bag of skills and expecting them to be capable of doing so can court disaster.

Be prepared for rage and aggression to be aimed at you. Be prepared to not be heard.. Be prepared to have everything that you claim about them, to be reassigned to you. When and if you are strong enough to cope with this treatment, then you may decide to go ahead. If you are hoping for recognition and a change for the better, more pain is in store.

The sufferer of Narcissistic Personality Disorder do not realize that other people are separate entities, with their own needs, lives and wants. Narcissists treat people as if they only exist to serve the narcissist's needs, and they have little regard for those who do not pay court to their wishes. In fact, they often develop an active dislike for those they cannot control and manipulate. Even those who will do their bidding can fall out of favor in a heartbeat should they stand up to the narcissist and say "no."

Narcissists don't really "see" anyone else, only their potential use as an object to carry out their wishes. This is why children of narcissists often feel as though they are "invisible" and worthless." Of course, they are neither invisible nor worthless, but the narcissistic parent has transferred that feeling onto them. In fact, it is the narcissist themselves who has a deep sense of worthlessness.

To be diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, five or more of the following characteristics must be present:

1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance, with little actual achievements.

2. Fantasizes about unlimited power, success, intelligence, and beauty.

3. Believes that s/he is "special" and attempts to associate only with those who the sufferer perceives are "like" them or will "appreciate" their talent.

4. Needs excessive admiration.

5. Expects especially favorable treatment by others or automatic agreement by others.

6. Exploits other people for their own advancement.

7. Cannot empathize with others.

8. Is envious of others but also believes others are envious of them.

9. Exhibits arrogant behaviors.

Some researchers believe that this disorder has its roots in the failure of the parent to act as empathic "mirrors" during infancy. As a result, the child remains "stuck", in an emotional sense, at a very early stage of development, and never learns that others not only exist, and have real feelings and needs of their own. By the time a normal child has entered kindergarten, he or she has developed a sense of "other" and can respond to some extent to the needs of their peer group. For the narcissist, this stage does not seem to have been successfully achieved, and the now-grown adult has the empathic capacity of a very young infant.

Researchers with a more sociological slant take the view that the occurrence of narcissism is on the increase in Western society due to the emphasis on individualism, instant pleasure, and personal success. The uprise of the so-called "me-generation" is believed to have been responsible for breeding a whole new generation of narcissists. Interestingly, family research also suggests that it is possible that there is a genetic component to this disorder, which has been successfully traced through successive generations in some families.

I've read many articles concerning NPD, and from what I understand, NPD establishes itself within the host, during infancy or the toddler stages of life.  The child probably had a very dysfuncational parent or parents...and learned to turn they're feelings off to prevent hurt...so they set they're hooks into our sons...it is probably the very first time in they're lives they've been loved...therefore, they become extremely territorial...anyone who poses a threat to that attention they so need, is going to literally be pushed out of they're lives....

this is abnormal...as a person who understands love, would not do this to anyone....








 

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« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2010, 05:14:52 AM »
KeysGirl

Maybe just writing all this down, is helping you.  It's great therapy...your reinforcing your thoughts and feelings...I did that for a lot of years...your not really looking for someone to come along and wave a magic wand giving you answers....it would be nice, however, you know that a great change must come from her...so you write, thinking out loud...and it reinforces how you feel...

I do that a lot...and people think I'm directing my writings to them...but I'm not...I'm just thinking out loud, writing my feelings down...

your a strong woman....we all are, to experience what we're going thru...and it's a shame that parents raised a daughter like that...and my point in another thread I started...she actually thinks her behavior is normal...and it's ok to expect everyone to cater to her...she has no concept of how her actions, thoughts and words effect the lives of so many others...and what is worse, she doesn't care...or even realize?  And that is her parents fault...I'm wondering if her mother is like that?  Or if they just didn't take the time to deal with discipline...some people just give they're kids everything they want, to keep them quiet.  A man I work with, when he hears these kind of stories utters under his breath..."sheesh...you should have to take a test to be a parent".  I agree, there are some really crappy parents out there...and it makes me grateful that I had parents that taught me better..

I do hope and pray as you do, that something will wake her up...but more then that, I wish your son would break off the wedding...what is wrong with him that he thinks this is ok?  Worse...he is going to pay dearly after he marry her...she will be much worse, and then, if they have children...she will raise them as herself...and the beat goes on, and on....it's a shame.

Any your right about NPD...tis true...and such a shame, and I've learned that it is the hardest personality disorder to deal with...although, there are many different kinds/stages?
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« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2010, 05:29:42 AM »
KeysGirl

Maybe just writing all this down, is helping you.  It's great therapy...your reinforcing your thoughts and feelings...I did that for a lot of years...your not really looking for someone to come along and wave a magic wand giving you answers....it would be nice, however, you know that a great change must come from her...so you write, thinking out loud...and it reinforces how you feel...

I do that a lot...and people think I'm directing my writings to them...but I'm not...I'm just thinking out loud, writing my feelings down...

Keys Girl is like a motivational speaker to me.  She makes me think I can make it even if  my heart is broken. 
your a strong woman....we all are, to experience what we're going thru...and it's a shame that parents raised a daughter like that...and my point in another thread I started...she actually thinks her behavior is normal...and it's ok to expect everyone to cater to her...she has no concept of how her actions, thoughts and words effect the lives of so many others...and what is worse, she doesn't care...or even realize?  And that is her parents fault...I'm wondering if her mother is like that?  Or if they just didn't take the time to deal with discipline...some people just give they're kids everything they want, to keep them quiet.  A man I work with, when he hears these kind of stories utters under his breath..."sheesh...you should have to take a test to be a parent".  I agree, there are some really crappy parents out there...and it makes me grateful that I had parents that taught me better..

I do hope and pray as you do, that something will wake her up...but more then that, I wish your son would break off the wedding...what is wrong with him that he thinks this is ok?  Worse...he is going to pay dearly after he marry her...she will be much worse, and then, if they have children...she will raise them as herself...and the beat goes on, and on....it's a shame.

Any your right about NPD...tis true...and such a shame, and I've learned that it is the hardest personality disorder to deal with...although, there are many different kinds/stages?

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« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2010, 05:36:34 AM »
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Faith, since we're constantly hurt and disappointed in them, what are we left with to do?  It's apparent that my son's wife has systematically taken control of him and nothing but hurt and neglect has ensued.


Let him go...I know it is very very difficult and heartbreaking, but that is also part of a mother's job, is to let them go...
it's natural and nature's way.  There is nothing we can do about it...it's his turn now to learn life's lessons.  Life isn't always fair...we can only do the best we know how to do as parents...and hope that when they leave home, that our influence and teachings will carry through. 

I wonder sometimes, why our son's deem this normal behavior?  And also wonder why they refuse to get involved...but also have to wonder why they chose someone so dysfunctional...?  It's one thing to be going out with someone who doesn't show they're true selves until after they are married?  However, some of our DIL's show this kind of dysfunction before they're married and our son's go thru with it?  I don't get that? 

I had failed marriages...the men I married were very controlling people...his father married a very controlling woman, very evil if she doesn't get her way...and I can't help but wonder if a part of him deems this normal behavior b/c of it? 

I'm not saying my DIL is like yours...she isn't...she's a very sweet woman now...and a good wife and mother...however, when they first got married, she had some problems socializing...didn't understand family...she practically raised herself....yanno, her mother is a very lucky woman, that my DIL has forgiven her and loves her...visits her, spends quality time with her...however, I'm certain her mother regrets what she did...and realizes...and it will haunt her the rest of her life...b/c her other children are very dysfunctional...my DIL, thank God, is not like that...she's grown, and I believe my son and her are good together and for each other...however....I had to let it all go...allow my son his own life...and that is very difficult...I dreamed of someday having a daughter in law, with whom I was very close to...that we were best friends...I really always wanted a daughter after my son...and when he told me they were getting married, I was so excited.  However, she wasn't that kind of woman...it wasn't about me...she just wasn't interested in being close...and I don't know why, only she knows the reasons and there are probably many reasons...not just one.  However...what I didn't realize, is, I had this picture in my mind, how it would be after my son was married...close family...family dinners...a DIL that was very close...spending time together...why, b/c that is how I was raised I guess...but she didn't live up to my expectations...didn't make her wrong and me right...it's just the way things were...and the hardest thing to do in my life, was to let them go...to let them alone to live they're lives...regardless of what I thought, felt, wanted...and it gave me peace after the realization of it all...I wanted what a lot of my friends have now, with they're familes...however, when I saw them come home, and try to visit every single family member and how they wore themselves out doing so...trying to spend time with all of us...her mother, his father and step mother...me...I was impressed...and I also allowed myself to see them happy...and they were....really beaming from ear to ear...

I'm not suggesting this is your situation...mine is unique, as yours is...not one of us has identical situations...but in my case...my son went away to another country to work, putting his life on the line...all, to give his family more...well, I think it woke her and I both up...we're friends now and I couldn't be more pleases...however, she is not the kind to call constantly and neither am I.  She isn't clingy and neither am I...and now, I respect her ways, who she is...b/c I've realized, right or wrong, it doesn't matter...my son loves her and she loves him...that is all  a mother could want for her child...even though they live far away...I must adjust and get on with my life...we all must, regardless of the situation...there is still much for us to learn...and from this whole situation, I learned a lot....

Hugs dear lady...
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Re: Advice needed - Future daughter-in-law is allowing contact only via her
« Reply #58 on: August 01, 2010, 05:49:58 AM »
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Faith, since we're constantly hurt and disappointed in them, what are we left with to do?  It's apparent that my son's wife has systematically taken control of him and nothing but hurt and neglect has ensued.


Let him go...I know it is very very difficult and heartbreaking, but that is also part of a mother's job, is to let them go...
it's natural and nature's way.  There is nothing we can do about it...it's his turn now to learn life's lessons.  Life isn't always fair...we can only do the best we know how to do as parents...and hope that when they leave home, that our influence and teachings will carry through. 

I wonder sometimes, why our son's deem this normal behavior?  And also wonder why they refuse to get involved...but also have to wonder why they chose someone so dysfunctional...?  It's one thing to be going out with someone who doesn't show they're true selves until after they are married?  However, some of our DIL's show this kind of dysfunction before they're married and our son's go thru with it?  I don't get that? 

I had failed marriages...the men I married were very controlling people...his father married a very controlling woman, very evil if she doesn't get her way...and I can't help but wonder if a part of him deems this normal behavior b/c of it? 

I'm not saying my DIL is like yours...she isn't...she's a very sweet woman now...and a good wife and mother...however, when they first got married, she had some problems socializing...didn't understand family...she practically raised herself....yanno, her mother is a very lucky woman, that my DIL has forgiven her and loves her...visits her, spends quality time with her...however, I'm certain her mother regrets what she did...and realizes...and it will haunt her the rest of her life...b/c her other children are very dysfunctional...my DIL, thank God, is not like that...she's grown, and I believe my son and her are good together and for each other...however....I had to let it all go...allow my son his own life...and that is very difficult...I dreamed of someday having a daughter in law, with whom I was very close to...that we were best friends...I really always wanted a daughter after my son...and when he told me they were getting married, I was so excited.  However, she wasn't that kind of woman...it wasn't about me...she just wasn't interested in being close...and I don't know why, only she knows the reasons and there are probably many reasons...not just one.  However...what I didn't realize, is, I had this picture in my mind, how it would be after my son was married...close family...family dinners...a DIL that was very close...spending time together...why, b/c that is how I was raised I guess...but she didn't live up to my expectations...didn't make her wrong and me right...it's just the way things were...and the hardest thing to do in my life, was to let them go...to let them alone to live they're lives...regardless of what I thought, felt, wanted...and it gave me peace after the realization of it all...I wanted what a lot of my friends have now, with they're familes...however, when I saw them come home, and try to visit every single family member and how they wore themselves out doing so...trying to spend time with all of us...her mother, his father and step mother...me...I was impressed...and I also allowed myself to see them happy...and they were....really beaming from ear to ear...

I'm not suggesting this is your situation...mine is unique, as yours is...not one of us has identical situations...but in my case...my son went away to another country to work, putting his life on the line...all, to give his family more...well, I think it woke her and I both up...we're friends now and I couldn't be more pleases...however, she is not the kind to call constantly and neither am I.  She isn't clingy and neither am I...and now, I respect her ways, who she is...b/c I've realized, right or wrong, it doesn't matter...my son loves her and she loves him...that is all  a mother could want for her child...even though they live far away...I must adjust and get on with my life...we all must, regardless of the situation...there is still much for us to learn...and from this whole situation, I learned a lot....

Hugs dear lady...
Creme

Thank you, that's what I'm trying to do and have let him go for my own sanity. My DIL is a user and it is very galling because I've been the used.  She is through with us so all communication has to be with her and her only.  Since she's through using us, her communication is sparse.  She dresses her girls in the finest also but that's all right but material things are the most important thing to her and none of my business. My son is the workhorse and no, I don't see the light in his eyes any longer for her.  Again, none of my business.  I tried to say on the post I copied that Keys Girl is like a Motivational Speaker to me.  I hope she still writes even if she is deeply hurt because her daily affirmations are a tonic to me.

cremebrulee

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Re: Advice needed - Future daughter-in-law is allowing contact only via her
« Reply #59 on: August 01, 2010, 07:20:02 AM »
Letting go, my friend, is one of the most difficult things for  some of us mother's to do, believe me...it's pain staking...and a whole life's lesson to learn...one that is most painful at times...but we must...

big hugs...
Creme