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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2012, 08:10:52 AM »
I hear you Tmb. ! My DD just announced she's coming home for the weekend as she has NO money to.survive till payday ! No ' If its convenient , or are you busy etc ! ' Yes I do have a life thankyou .Last week I stocked her fridge and freezer as she had nothing to eat ! Why ? Too many nights out enjoying herself ........of course she has to enjoy herself, but when will she realise there are four weeks till next pay day ! She's 30 this year and still waiting for the perfect man ,. I need to find a.wishing well and chuck in some dosh as this mom can't afford to keep bailing this young lady out ! A nice rich man for my DD please ......come to think of it .......make that two.! LOL

Lancaster -- you are a loving, caring mom.  We all know that.  We also know you had a tough year in 2011, so my heart goes out to you.  As a friend, though, I would ask you to look at whether perhaps you are enabling the very behavior on your daughter's part that you find worrisome.  As long as you stock her fridge and freezer, what's to make her deal with reality?  Why shouldn't she go out and enjoy herself when she know that she can count on mom to stock the fridge and freezer, and when that's gone, she just moves in with you for the weekend?

I think that by rescuing her you are teaching her that she does not need to be responsible - that you will always be there to "save" her.  Even if you could find that rich man for her, that is no answer.  She might run through all his money, then they'd BOTH be broke.  He might get angry at her spendthrift ways and divorce her.  No, the answer lies within your daughter.  I suspect she will not find the answers or become responsible as long as you rescue her.

This is a tough economy for many.  I do not know your financial situation, but I would also hope that you are not spending money you can't afford to spend, in order to keep your daughter afloat.  You need to take care of yourself and provide for your own retirement. 

Lancaster - I apologize if my post is hurtful.  I don't mean it to be.  You know that I care about you - I just see a rescue pattern that will not end until YOU end it.  I hope that when your daughter comes home this weekend you will enjoy some quality time with her, but that you will also tell her that you are through stocking her fridge and freezer, and being a place to come when she runs out of $$$.  That your gift to her is one of responsibility and self-sufficiency - not dependency. 

Here in the states there are personal finance classes offered at local churches, based on the Dave Ramsey philosophy.  Perhaps they have them in England, too.  I paid the fee (about $100) for my daughter to attend after she graduated from college and got her first job.  She learned a lot, and now knows how to budget, doesn't come to us for $$$, etc.  I would suggest finding out if they have them in your area - go to the Dave Ramsey website - look for Financial Peace University.  It's well worth it.  There may be other such classes in your area.  Ramsey certainly isn't the only one - but it's very inexpensive and based on good philosophy. 

Take care - best wishes.

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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2012, 09:44:07 AM »
TMB, from my understanding DH did it before we married but with a lot of reminders from Mom.  And, I mean...a lot.  I used to get irritated when he and I first moved in together and she would call, call, call all day long on the day of a family event to remind him, ask him where he was, when he was leaving, when he would get there, where is he, have we left yet.  Oh my gosh, I would feel like pulling my hair out...and if he didn't answer his phone, she'd call the house phone, then my cell phone. 

At the time I would just be irritated with her, but looking back on it...well, it's not just her.  It was DH too, he was late to events, if he would go at all.  Extended family would invite him and he wouldn't rsvp yes or no.  A lot of the responsibility was on his lap but I'm not sure which came first, if the familial relationship was already sour so DH just withdrew or if he was so used to MIL speaking and acting for him he just came to rely on her.  He says now that he rarely has wanted to socialize with them as much as they want him too, he doesn't care for the extended cousin bday parties and that kind of thing.  So I tend to think it's a combo of not being able to tell MIL "no" and mean it and MIL not being able to accept a "no."

I do know that he had/has zero problems with his social life outside of his FOO.  He can and will rsvp, show up on time to friends events, invite people to our events with enough notice.

The problems he has with scheduling only seem to be contained to his FOO. 
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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2012, 10:18:19 AM »
Boy that just proves out that article, men pull away from sources of stress. If my husbands has to do something he WANTS to do, he is like a commanding general, he gets it done. With his FOO not so much. Lets face it most FOO produce some stress. Some more then others. On another note, I actually bought and read "When your son takes a wife". WOW  :o Now thats some stress ladies!

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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2012, 11:14:01 AM »
I agree with Shelby, being a Dave Ramsey fan myself.  I pulled way back from giving my AC so much help when I realized we had to get ourselves in shape for retirement.   

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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2012, 02:03:21 PM »
I agree with Shelby, being a Dave Ramsey fan myself.  I pulled way back from giving my AC so much help when I realized we had to get ourselves in shape for retirement.   

And not just getting yourself in shape for retirement - but getting the AC in shape for after we're gone?  If they can't take care of themselves while we're around, they're certainly not going to magically become able to take care of themselves after we die.  Who wants their kids to be so immature and dependent that WE have to support them, then when we're gone, their lives crumble? 

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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2012, 10:05:03 AM »
I'm going to have to go look up Dave Ramsey

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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2012, 11:36:36 AM »
Oh, Pooh - you have to listen to Dave Ramsey.  He has a daily radio show and podcasts on his website.  Listening to some of the people who call in will make  you feel sooooo smart.

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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2012, 12:09:36 PM »
Oh, I will definately have to find that!

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« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2012, 09:10:26 AM »
Hey Shelby, I read some of your posts to get to know you better.  And I appreciate that you are a mother of sons and what that type of parenting develops.  Totally support you recognizing that the season of being the center of the universe does not last forever.  Good for you to focus on your life.  I am getting totally affirmed from reading your posts that I have a life to live, live and let live.  Good to know you.  Thanks,

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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2012, 09:43:34 AM »
Thanks, Smiles - It's good to know you, too.  Have fun on your trip to AZ tomorrow.  I am going to Phoenix on Friday - just wish we could meet up!  ;D  But at least we'll both be warm.  I am escaping the cold for a few days with an old college buddy.  I deserve the trip, since DH goes on stag trips with our sons - with my complete blessing, of course.

Remember when the kids were little and we told them No - for their own good?   Same applies now, with AC, especially with $$$ issues.  I was glad to pay their college - because that is a tool that enables them to provide for themselves in life.  I would help in a medical emergency, of course.  And DH and I have contributed a little bit to retirement accounts for them (because they certainly cannot count on social security in 50 years and corporate pensions are a thing of the past) but we refuse to strip them of their dignity and independence by paying normal living expenses.  Our job was to raise independent and self sufficient children.  So we succeeded.  We may wish the DILs cared more for us, or that DS was a better communicator - but at least they are taking care of themselves. 

Enjoy your trip, and remember - NO BAGGAGE -- except the kind you check on the airplane.   ;D

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« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2012, 10:43:28 AM »
Yes, i like that alot...the blessings of knowing our sons can take care of themselves.  Even the one of my sons who does not have a career is making choices to live subsistence level, and seems quite confident on how to survive.  We are not *rescuing* him...much as I want to get him into a comfortable lifestyle, I cannot do it.  We learn as we go, as parents, to let go and let them find their way.  No baggage for AZ and I think you will really enjoy yourselves this trip.  It has been a hard winter and they are having nice, pleasant, sunny weather.  ENJOY!

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